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Sun May 06, 2012, 12:26pm
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Make The Call: Illegal Screen
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Sun May 06, 2012, 01:21pm
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The contact is slight but it did put the defender off his course.
Wish the C wasn't so high. He was actually backing away as that pass was being made.
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Sun May 06, 2012, 01:23pm
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Whether those on the bench saw anything or not, certainly no arguing from them!
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Sun May 06, 2012, 02:33pm
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Good call, contact redirected the defender farther around the screen than would have happened without the movement.
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Sun May 06, 2012, 04:11pm
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The only question I have, did the contact displace the defender or did the defender try to go around him and slight contact took place? And in this kind of screen this is one where I would like to see what was called with other screens. Sometimes screened players just try to go around the screen and not go through the screen. Again no one said anything, but I would have liked to have seen a little more contact to call this. Then again the angle was not very good so in my mind I can see how little contact could take place. It would just be a question I would ask the official if I was a clinician or evaluating the tape.
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Sun May 06, 2012, 06:39pm
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Too Close To Call, Too Close To Not Call ...
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Mon May 07, 2012, 02:59am
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I'd have to have more contact on this play to have an illegal screen. The contact, IMO, is marginal at best.
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Mon May 07, 2012, 07:51am
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Mon May 07, 2012, 08:07am
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If I ever call this a foul, this is a least amount of contact I've judged to be a foul.
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Mon May 07, 2012, 08:51am
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Not much contact but I've watched it a few times and the more I watch the more I like the call.
Now I'm thinking about the calls I've let go on similar plays and wondering if I've put the defense at a undeserved disadvantage. Nice post, gets us thinking, which is what this board is supposed to do.
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Mon May 07, 2012, 09:47am
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Mon May 07, 2012, 10:58am
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By rule....definitely ok with the call. Taken by itself I probably wouldn't have called it. I'm thinking the screener was a repeat offender or there had been some illegal screens before this play and the L was looking and ready to bust the next illegal screen. I say that because the Lead came out so hard you would have thought the defender got knocked to the floor or something egregious had occurred...
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Mon May 07, 2012, 11:47am
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To me, it looks like the L was a bit straighlined at the point of contact. Any chance he thought there was more contact than in actuality?
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Mon May 07, 2012, 12:10pm
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There was only that small amount of contact because the defender was trying to get around the screen rather than run into it. The fact that there was still contact and the defender had, as a result of the movement, been rerouted to a much less preferable line is all I need to call that foul. Had the screener been stationary, the defender would have not had to go so far around.
Requiring a defender to be knocked over or dramatically off course (on a screen that is part of the actual play) to get an illegal screen call is just not fair to the defense.
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Mon May 07, 2012, 12:15pm
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Talk about setting the standard! Sorry partner but I cannot mirror that call...
Lets ask ourselves exactly how was the defender disadvantaged? The player he was attempting to get to made the extra pass to the corner. IMO the defender wasnt getting there had it been no screen at all. Even if I've had conversation with the player/coach about him moving on the screen, this is not the one I'm making an example of.
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