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ChuckElias Tue Jul 01, 2003 03:29pm

Quote:

Originally posted by A Pennsylvania Coach
Pack a ruler in your bag!
I have one, but it's just for lacrosse!

Mark Dexter Tue Jul 01, 2003 09:45pm

Quote:

Originally posted by A Pennsylvania Coach

Pack a ruler in your bag!

No need - per the supplement to the court diagram, if a "belt" is used instead of a "line," it should be at least 8" wide.

Mark Dexter Tue Jul 01, 2003 09:45pm

Quote:

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Quote:

Originally posted by A Pennsylvania Coach
Pack a ruler in your bag!
I have one, but it's just for lacrosse!


Is that a ruler in your bag, or just a lacrosse stick?

Nevadaref Wed Jul 02, 2003 03:54am

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Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
I am not going to dig out my rules books for the year of the change, but it use to be if the out-of-bounds line was only two inches wide it was a throw-in violation to step on the out-of-bounds line. If the OOB line was wider that 2" and the thrower stepped on the line it was not a violation.
If you are serious, this is the best example yet of how inane the rules committee can be!

NWAhoops Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:40am

Free Throw Line
 
BktBallRef - Does that logic/rule also apply to the free throw line?

Jurassic Referee Wed Jul 02, 2003 10:48am

Re: Free Throw Line
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NWAhoops
BktBallRef - Does that logic/rule also apply to the free throw line?
Coach,I'll grab this one for Tony.

Nope,the same logic doesn't apply.The free throw shooter has to make the attempt from behind the free throw line.They can't step on the line or vertically break the plane of the closet edge of the free throw line to them.In high school rules,which you probably use,these restrictions end when the ball touches the ring or backboard,or the try ends.

ChuckElias Wed Jul 02, 2003 11:50am

Re: Re: Free Throw Line
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Jurassic Referee
Nope,the same logic doesn't apply.The free throw shooter has to make the attempt from behind the free throw line.They can't step on the line or vertically break the plane of the closet edge of the free throw line to them.
Additionally, unlike the inbounder, the FT shooter can't back up as far as s/he wants. . .

Hawks Coach Wed Jul 02, 2003 05:05pm

Re: Free Throw Line
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NWAhoops
BktBallRef - Does that logic/rule also apply to the free throw line?
In a way it does, but probably not how the way you are asking if it does! The external edge of the FT line and all other lines around the lane define the external edge of the lane. If you touch the edge of the line, you are in the lane. With three seconds, FT line, and FT lane violations, think of the lane AND it's boundary lines as another restricted area.

Mark Dexter Wed Jul 02, 2003 05:51pm

Quote:

Originally posted by Nevadaref
Quote:

Originally posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.
I am not going to dig out my rules books for the year of the change, but it use to be if the out-of-bounds line was only two inches wide it was a throw-in violation to step on the out-of-bounds line. If the OOB line was wider that 2" and the thrower stepped on the line it was not a violation.
If you are serious, this is the best example yet of how inane the rules committee can be!


What's more inane is that the OOB lines simply need to be a minimum of 2" wide.

Of course, the 2"/8" rule is just part of the "supplement to the court diagram," not the rules.

Nevadaref Thu Jul 03, 2003 12:46am

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Originally posted by Hawks Coach
Quote:

Originally posted by NWAhoops
BktBallRef - Does that logic/rule also apply to the free throw line?
In a way it does, but probably not how the way you are asking if it does! The external edge of the FT line and all other lines around the lane define the external edge of the lane. If you touch the edge of the line, you are in the lane. With three seconds, FT line, and FT lane violations, think of the lane AND it's boundary lines as another restricted area.

Coach, I have heard that a quick way of thinking about this is: If you step on the OOB lines you are out, if you step on the lines inside the court you are in that area.

For example, stepping on the lane lines puts you in the lane, and stepping on the division line puts you in the backcourt.


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