Travel or Not (with video)

[hoopguy]

First of all... I miss plenty of calls. I do my best but it happens.

The point I want to make is that we should not say it is okay or it happened to quickly to see. Most basketball plays happen quickly and we get paid the big bucks to see the play and make the call. It was a missed call and one team was mistakenly rewarded with 2 points. We should not berate the poster because it happens to all of us but it should be called and it is not okay to miss.

On a side note but on this subject. I have been thinking that on these types of inside scoring plays, possibly the 3 man mechanics should be updated so that the center, if not on the ball can look for travel calls while the on the ball lead would focus more on contact. Currently, the on ball ref needs to see contact as well as travel which is very difficult when there are multiple players around a ball handler driving to the basket. I realize this would put 2 refs on-ball in this situation but something really should be done about the rash of missed travel calls. I believe it was on this web site where I read about the huge number of missed travel calls in many state finals proving that this is a national problem.

[rockyroad]

The off-ball officials can and should always be involved in plays like you are talking about. We want the T or the C to pick up that travel call while the L is watching for the contact. So I am really not sure what point you are trying to make here.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

The off-ball officials can and should always be involved in plays like you are talking about. We want the T or the C to pick up that travel call while the L is watching for the contact. So I am really not sure what point you are trying to make here.

Watching the video, this is a play C should have had.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Watching the video, this is a play C should have had.

Except that this game was in Oregon where they refuse to move to 3 person mechanics.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Except that this game was in Oregon where they refuse to move to 3 person mechanics.

Ah, then it's a bit understandable. T's going to be further away. Although given what was happening, the T should have been staying a bit closer to the play.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Ah, then it's a bit understandable. T's going to be further away. Although given what was happening, the T should have been staying a bit closer to the play.

True. And then could have helped with the travel call.

[tref]

Originally Posted by hoopguy

I have been thinking that on these types of inside scoring plays, possibly the 3 man mechanics should be updated so that the center, if not on the ball can look for travel calls while the on the ball lead would focus more on contact. Currently, the on ball ref needs to see contact as well as travel which is very difficult when there are multiple players around a ball handler driving to the basket. I realize this would put 2 refs on-ball in this situation but something really should be done about the rash of missed travel calls. I believe it was on this web site where I read about the huge number of missed travel calls in many state finals proving that this is a national problem.

In the League the T is already picking up feet as the L has body contact & the C is prepared for the curl play. It's called Team Officiating. I doubt you'll see it in any HS books anytime soon as WE are too hung up on PCAs at that level. There are a few type of plays that the League require 2 sets of eyes on. There are 2 sides to a screen, aren't there? When you're working with likeminded individuals, I see nothing wrong with incorporating higher level philosophies for court coverage into any level game to make it better. Working HS games, sometimes the R wants double whistles to go to the L sometimes to T. Those are NCAA M&W philosophies in the HS game, right? Nevermind, I've said too much...