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Old Thu Apr 12, 2012, 12:49am
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I am afraid to ask.....but...

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I only have mine through the kindness of a stranger. I don't know what I'll do next year.

I belong to the NFHS. I paid my $17.00 back in August, 2011. The problem is, the NFHS thinks I'm a volleyball official, and Arbiter knows that I'm a basketball official. Connecticut is a 100% IAABO state for basketball. IAABO officials don't usually belong to the NFHS. In regard to joining the NFHS, Connecticut is an "all or nothing state". Individuals can't join the NFHS. Stupid IAABO. Stupid NFHS. Stupid Arbiter. Stupid monkeys.
Why could you not join the NF? What they tell you now what products you can buy?

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Old Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:13am
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Why could you not join the NF?
I am not allowed to join as a basketball official. Connecticut is an "all or nothing state". Since Connecticut is a 100% IAABO state, basketball officials here have no desire to join the NFHS (we get books, insurance, educational materials, etc. through IAABO). Individual basketball officials cannot join due to the "all or nothing" rule. I used to get access to NFHS materials (PDF's) by paying my $17.00 and registering (I know a guy) with the CIAC (our state's interscholastic sports governing body) as a volleyball official (which I'm not). That was before the NFHS and Arbiter got together. Since I'm not listed on Arbiter volleyball (because I'm not a "real" volleyball official), the NFHS no longer views me as a volleyball official. I am listed on Arbiter basketball, but the NFHS does not view any basketball officials in Connecticut as NFHS members.

Stupid IAABO. Stupid NFHS. Stupid Arbiter. Stupid monkeys.
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Old Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:51am
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I am not allowed to join as a basketball official. Connecticut is an "all or nothing state". Since Connecticut is a 100% IAABO state, basketball officials here have no desire to join the NFHS (we get books, insurance, educational materials, etc. through IAABO). Individual basketball officials cannot join due to the "all or nothing" rule. I used to get access to NFHS materials (PDF's) by paying my $17.00 and registering (I know a guy) with the CIAC (our state's interscholastic sports governing body) as a volleyball official (which I'm not). That was before the NFHS and Arbiter got together. Since I'm not listed on Arbiter volleyball (because I'm not a "real" volleyball official), the NFHS no longer views me as a volleyball official. I am listed on Arbiter basketball, but the NFHS does not view any basketball officials in Connecticut as NFHS members.

Stupid IAABO. Stupid NFHS. Stupid Arbiter. Stupid monkeys.
Can you elaborate on the "all or nothing" rule? What does that rule state? My initial reaction, if I'm understanding the meaning correctly, is that has to be some sort of illegal rule. How can an organization hold independent contractors to such a stringent requirement? Perhaps I'm wrong, but it seems to smack more of an employer-employee relationship.
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Old Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:01pm
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Can you elaborate on the "all or nothing" rule? What does that rule state?.
When I go onto the NFHS website to try to join, as soon as the NFHS discovers that I'm from Connecticut, and that I'm a basketball official, they will not allow me to join. I don't know if this was unilaterally decided by the NFHS, or if they got together with the CIAC (our interscholastic sports governing body).

The only officials in Connecticut who are allowed to join the NFHS are those who belong to an organization where all the members in that particular organization join the NFHS together, all of them, together, getting their books, insurance, educational materials. etc. from the NFHS., for example, all the volleyball officials in Connecticut.

Connecticut is 100% IAABO for basketball. IAABO members get books (NFHS rulebook, and casebook, IAABO mechanics manual), insurance, educational materials. etc. through IAABO, and, thus, have no need to join the NFHS.
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Old Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:12pm
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Can you elaborate on the "all or nothing" rule? What does that rule state?
From the NFHS websaite:

Officials Area

The NFHS has partnered with ArbiterSports to provide members of the NFHS Officials Association with exclusive online benefits.

IMPORTANT NOTE: You must be a member of the NFHS Officials Association to access ALL the content on the NFHS Central Hub. Officials become members of the NFHS Officials Association through one of three avenues:

1. Through 100% participation by the state association. States participating include: AK, AZ, AR, CO, CT, DC, DE, IN, IA, KS, KY, MD, MN, MO, MT, NE, NV, NH, NJ, NM, ND, OH, OK, OR, SC, SD, TX, UT, VA, WV, WY

2. Through 100% participation by the local association (Tier 2 & Special Groups; only permitted in the states NOT mentioned above).

3. Through individual participation (only permitted in the states NOT mentioned above – click here to join.)

Click on the following link to experience the NFHS Central Hub powered by ArbiterSports – an exclusive online benefit for NFHS Officials Association members.
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Old Thu Apr 12, 2012, 05:16pm
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Billy,

I am still confused. If you pay for a service and you are not getting the service you pay for, why would that be allowed to not classify you properly? Could not pay for an account that has nothing to do with your normal Arbiter? It just sounds strange.

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Old Thu Apr 12, 2012, 06:05pm
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Hey Fullor
I hate to ask, but...
Did the download mention anything about support or updates.
I do not want to buy last year rule books cuz I have them already.
So I guess I will just wait.
Thanks for the responses to this post
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Old Thu Apr 12, 2012, 08:09pm
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Hey Fullor
I hate to ask, but...
Did the download mention anything about support or updates.
I do not want to buy last year rule books cuz I have them already.
So I guess I will just wait.
Thanks for the responses to this post
Not sure, I dont care the whole point to me as rut said is the convenience and ease of use. It's the best
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