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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:09am
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Comments, please: Team A is out of timeouts nearing the end of a tie ballgame. They have possession of ball but get trapped on baseline, at their end of court. T (on bench side) thinks he hears A HC call a TO and hits whistle. Coach gives him a look of disbelief and says "I said 'get it out', not time out. I'm out of timeouts, why would I call one". What to do now? Give back to A under inadvertant whistle rule? Call T on A for excessive time outs?
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 08:38am
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Benefit of the doubt. Tap your chest and administer A's throw-in.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:01am
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Comments, please: Team A is out of timeouts nearing the end of a tie ballgame. They have possession of ball but get trapped on baseline, at their end of court. T (on bench side) thinks he hears A HC call a TO and hits whistle. Coach gives him a look of disbelief and says "I said 'get it out', not time out. I'm out of timeouts, why would I call one". What to do now? Give back to A under inadvertant whistle rule? Call T on A for excessive time outs?
If it is a game under NFHS rules...simply follow this play ruling:

5.8.3 SITUATION E:
A1 is dribbling the ball in his/her backcourt when: (a) the
Team B head coach requests and is erroneously granted a time-out by an official;
or (b) the Team A head coach is yelling “side out” offensive instructions to his/her
team and the official stops play believing the coach requested a time-out.
RULING:

In (a), Team B is entitled to use the time-out since it was requested and
granted; once granted it cannot be revoked and is charged to Team B. All privileges
and rights permitted during a charged time-out are available to both teams.
Play will resume with a Team A throw-in nearest to where play was stopped. In
(b), an inadvertent whistle has occurred. Team A was not requesting a time-out,
and therefore, should not be granted or charged with one. Play is resumed at the
point of interruption. (4-36-1; 4-36-2a)
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:22am
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Comments, please: Team A is out of timeouts nearing the end of a tie ballgame. They have possession of ball but get trapped on baseline, at their end of court. T (on bench side) thinks he hears A HC call a TO and hits whistle. Coach gives him a look of disbelief and says "I said 'get it out', not time out. I'm out of timeouts, why would I call one". What to do now? Give back to A under inadvertant whistle rule? Call T on A for excessive time outs?
Do you have any locals who are telling you to charge the time-out?
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:27am
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Thanks guys, looks like the crew (15-U AAU in TN) handled this one correctly as I suspected, although HC B was def wanting something else
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:30am
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Thanks guys, looks like the crew (15-U AAU in TN) handled this one correctly as I suspected, although HC B was def wanting something else
Realistically, what else should Coach B expect to come from the IW?
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.....although HC B was def wanting something else
Like what? A beer?
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:22pm
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Realistically, what else should Coach B expect to come from the IW?
Not sure, but prob his complaint was the IW let A out of the trap. He was about to (maybe) gain possession. Team A scored the gw a few passes later after the inbounds.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:48pm
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Team A scored the gw a few passes later after the inbounds.
*Ouch* Stuff happens, good thing the real trophies have already been given out!
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 02:14pm
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*Ouch* Stuff happens, good thing the real trophies have already been given out!
Yep. Tough situation to be put into, but there's no way out without screwing one side or the other. I'd own up to it with B coach, "Coach, I messed up and thought I heard a timeout request. I was wrong, so I can't penalize them for that."

High school, I'd let him bend my ear for a few seconds. AAU, we're moving on and if he doesn't want to he'll get a quick warning.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 06:31pm
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Comments, please: Team A is out of timeouts nearing the end of a tie ballgame. They have possession of ball but get trapped on baseline, at their end of court. T (on bench side) thinks he hears A HC call a TO and hits whistle. Coach gives him a look of disbelief and says "I said 'get it out', not time out. I'm out of timeouts, why would I call one". What to do now? Give back to A under inadvertant whistle rule? Call T on A for excessive time outs?
IW, naturally.
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