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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:28am
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Tom Eades is one of my favorites to watch. I sat on the first row right behind the table at a game a couple of years ago. He is pretty funny.
He was also on the crew that allowed Ohio to shoot unmerited free throws in overtime vs. UNC. Personally I didn't expect anybody from that crew to move on after that. Not to say that officials who make mistakes shouldn't advance, just that the crew basically kicked a rule at a crucial point in the game. Considering officials get suspended by conference supervisors for kicking rules I was assuming such a mistake would prevent one from advancing in the NCAA tournament.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:48am
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He was also on the crew that allowed Ohio to shoot unmerited free throws in overtime vs. UNC. Personally I didn't expect anybody from that crew to move on after that. Not to say that officials who make mistakes shouldn't advance, just that the crew basically kicked a rule at a crucial point in the game. Considering officials get suspended by conference supervisors for kicking rules I was assuming such a mistake would prevent one from advancing in the NCAA tournament.
Why do you think that John Adams or anyone involved with the selection of the NCAA tournament officials is aware that such a mistake was made?

It is entirely possible that the NCAA observer missed it.
Did someone send an email? Do you think that those folks read this site?
Have you seen an article in the press mentioning it?
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 11:29am
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Terry Wymer deserves his first final four!
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 12:12pm
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Eades or Ayres
Mike and Roger kinda came up together via Fred Barakat in the late 90's....

Who do you guys think is better.........
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 12:33pm
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Mike and Roger kinda came up together via Fred Barakat in the late 90's....

Who do you guys think is better.........
I think they have some similarities...probably because they came up together. That old regime (RIP Fred) had a long-term vision philosophy. It is nice to see those two and others thought so highly of.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 12:55pm
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I think they have some similarities...probably because they came up together. That old regime (RIP Fred) had a long-term vision philosophy. It is nice to see those two and others thought so highly of.
Very well put........Don't know if you went to any of Fred's camps but they were some of if not the best camps ever offered......

Eades by a nose....
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 02:33pm
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Very well put........Don't know if you went to any of Fred's camps but they were some of if not the best camps ever offered......

Eades by a nose....
They are best friends. And they run a camp together, or at least they used to.

Their personalities are different, Mike is more of a personable type while I believe Roger has a law enforcement background and that carries onto the court.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 03:29pm
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Very well put........Don't know if you went to any of Fred's camps but they were some of if not the best camps ever offered......

Eades by a nose....
I went to two in Indy - Fred's last two he ran.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 01:33pm
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Mike and Roger kinda came up together via Fred Barakat in the late 90's....

Who do you guys think is better.........
I like Roger, and I witnessed him missing Louisiana Lafayette beating WKU with 6 players in OT
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Kentucky vs Louisville: Les Jones, Doug Shows, Joe DeRosa

Ohio St vs Kansas: Jamie Luckie, Tom Eades, Patrick Adams
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 02:30pm
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Why do you think that John Adams or anyone involved with the selection of the NCAA tournament officials is aware that such a mistake was made?

It is entirely possible that the NCAA observer missed it.
Did someone send an email? Do you think that those folks read this site?
Have you seen an article in the press mentioning it?
Why do I think John Adams should be aware? I don't know, maybe because it was one of only 2 games being played in that timeslot and the game was in overtime and the other game had ended and the 2 late games hadn't started yet. So I kinda figured all eyes would be on that game at that particular point in time.

And since the announcers and studio crew never once mentioned it it doesn't surprise me that other media outlets were unaware as well. Of course I didn't know media attention is what validates whether or not a mistake was made.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 02:34pm
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I'm a little surprised not to see Mike Stephens on that list. He went to the semis last year and I thought the feedback on him was excellent. I thought he would go back with a chance to work the final.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 07:54pm
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Why do I think John Adams should be aware? I don't know, maybe because it was one of only 2 games being played in that timeslot and the game was in overtime and the other game had ended and the 2 late games hadn't started yet. So I kinda figured all eyes would be on that game at that particular point in time.

And since the announcers and studio crew never once mentioned it it doesn't surprise me that other media outlets were unaware as well. Of course I didn't know media attention is what validates whether or not a mistake was made.
It is still entirely possible that Adams and his observers didn't pick up on the mistake just like all of the others you mention.
Obviously they can't incorporate something into their evaluations of which they aren't aware, despite the fact that they should be aware of it.
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Old Tue Mar 27, 2012, 09:00pm
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Another noticable missing: Ed Corbett. Of course, he was involved with the UNC-Asheville/Syracuse mess.

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One of the articles which I read attributed this to the fact that John Adams doesn't favor guys who work so many games.
The fact that Ayers, Eades and Luckie all worked at least 95 games this season and are in the top 4 for number of games worked seems to disprove that theory.

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Why do I think John Adams should be aware? I don't know, maybe because it was one of only 2 games being played in that timeslot and the game was in overtime and the other game had ended and the 2 late games hadn't started yet. So I kinda figured all eyes would be on that game at that particular point in time.
Adams was in Atlanta at the Georgia Dome that night. I seriously doubt he saw that incident.
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