Is it much different than getting the foul call a second or two later after the offensive player steps OOB or travels?

Right, I believe that's where having a feel for the game comes into play.

If he called the p/c here, Im sure coach wouldve been like, "call the first foul!"

I think it's different only in the timing. If the defender pushes the offensive player 4 steps ago and then the player goes OOB, that's a little late to penalize.

I think in this play, it was also too late to penalize.

Exactly! and he would have been correct. Which is why I categorized this call as the "safe' call.

Whats with all the "late" stuff?? See the whole play & adjudicate properly.
Late & right trumps quick & wrong, all day, every day.

Under the circumstances (potential b/c twice) I believe this to be a "correct" call instead of a "safe" call.

I agree, but there is such a thing as too late.



I don't agree. But I can see the argument.

Example please...

Place yourself in Hess' shoes, you have a funky misdirection at the timeline... twice. You mean to tell me your mind isnt going to be focused on 2 feet, the ball & the line more than the contact on the offensive guy.

Flirting with the timeline & defensive pressure is always a tough play in real time.

This play :D



I haven't seen the video since last night, so my memory may be a little foggy. But I remember thinking I would have called the first contact as a hand check. But he obviously ruled it incidental no call. Which then lead to the whole series of backcourt non violations.

For the record, he nailed the no call on the possible violations.

But my point remains, if you let the first couple of contacts go, its hard to justify penalizing the defense on the one play he decides to actually not foul.

I guess we'll agree to disagree...

It would be hard to justify if he just blew his whistle like it was a routine call. But did you see his verbal skills & big table presence?

Veteran guys say, we can turn our million dollar call into a cheap call & turn nickle & dimers into a million dollar call, depending on what we do post-whistle.

Take a look at Pitino after the whistle, dude is calling the next play.

Thing is that the first misdirection at the timeline was caused by illegal contact by B1. The next 2 times there is contact it is with A1 warding off a legal B1.

The first contact by B1 is one example of the spotty RSBQ officiating I mentioned in another thread.

Absolutely! Not saying he was correct in missing the first one, but I totally understand how it happened.

Honestly though, the defender with LGP appears to move forward into the dribbler on all 3 instances.