VCU v. Indiana

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer

Shouldn't have taken the 7-8 minutes (the 4+ minutes of the video plus the media timeout) to get this play right.

And I'm not sure they got it right. There was hardly any contact...maybe not even enough to warrant even a common foul, much less a flagrant 1.

I don't think they intended to say that all contact above the shoulders by an elbow must be an F1, but that if contact above the shoulders involving an elbow was enough for a foul, it should be called an F1 (or F2).

In this case, it took a long time for them to even decide if there was contact or not. The defender didn't even flinch....and seemed fully unaffected by it. I doubt an F1 was the intent on this one.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

I don't think they intended to say that all contact above the shoulders by an elbow must be an F1, but that if contact above the shoulders involving an elbow was enough for a foul, it should be called an F1 (or F2).

That is exactly how it was explained to me and also what I read in the documentation when the rule change was published. The officials have the choice of incidental contact, F1, or F2, but a common foul is not an option.

[Lotto]

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

That is exactly how it was explained to me and also what I read in the documentation when the rule change was published. The officials have the choice of incidental contact, F1, or F2, but a common foul is not an option.

That's the way it was explained to me as well. Also, in this year's "Major Officiating Concerns for Men," the following two points were made.


Flagrant 1 or Flagrant 2 Fouls for Elbow Contact
Officials are reminded that there can be incidental contact with the elbow above or below the shoulders; swinging of the elbow is required for the foul to be classified as a flagrant 1 or 2 foul. Some incidental contact is being penalized improperly.

Use of Monitor
While technology is a tool which has enabled officials to “get the call right,” there is growing concern that the monitor is being used too often, especially on calls where officials are correct a high percentage of the time. Just because the rules say officials are permitted to go doesn’t mean they must go to the monitor.