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Old Sat Mar 17, 2012, 11:21pm
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Two plays that would be good to see:

1) 8:20 to go in 1st half of Murray St./Marquette... Would any of you went with offensive foul?
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I could go PC on this one since the shoulder charge is what leads to the defender getting knocked a few feet back and his arms to lose verticality.
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Two plays that would be good to see:

1) 8:20 to go in 1st half of Murray St./Marquette... Would any of you went with offensive foul?
Nope.

Defender was moving forward at the time of that contact so they didn't have LGP. Shoulder doesn't mean much of the defender is illegal.
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Nope.

Defender was moving forward at the time of that contact so they didn't have LGP. Shoulder doesn't mean much of the defender is illegal.
Camron:

I was going to watch the video but I read your post first and that was all I needed to know.

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Foul was called b/c B1's arms were never vertical, even before A1 contacted him with the shoulder. But B1 was not moving forward at time of contact.
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Foul was called b/c B1's arms were never vertical, even before A1 contacted him with the shoulder. But B1 was not moving forward at time of contact.
Look again...B1's feet (foot) were inside the RA just before the shoulder contact and were coming forward...several inches outside of the RA at the time of that contact. Can't get between those two points without moving forward.

The foul that was called was not for that, indeed, but the block/charge element of the play was a block. There was a claim that this body contact caused the arms to not be vertical.
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Old Sun Mar 18, 2012, 01:18pm
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Foul was called b/c B1's arms were never vertical, even before A1 contacted him with the shoulder. But B1 was not moving forward at time of contact.
I agree, B1 arms are not vertical and that's where I think they called the foul, but IMO there is clear displacement from A1 her well prior to the upstairs contact.

Thanks for posting and discussing.
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