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Old Sat Mar 17, 2012, 09:12am
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This past season I developed "the bad habit" of "bird dogging" on occasion. I knew I did it (maybe 10% of the time) and usually on a foul under the basket or in the lane. It was seen as a bad habit by evaluators and I was told about it several times. Even though it's in the FED Rules Book, understand, I got it.

Gotta tell ya, I notice a fare amount of it in the Tourney!

Any of you have the habit? Had it? Broke it? Use it on occasion? Reasoning?
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2012, 09:24am
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We don't use it for Fed games, and we are supposed to for FIBA games.

I like it when I need to sell a call in a group of players, but that's it. Generally, I use it sparingly.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2012, 02:22pm
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We don't use it for Fed games, and we are supposed to for FIBA games.

I like it when I need to sell a call in a group of players, but that's it. Generally, I use it sparingly.
Like you, I only use it sparingly when I deem it necessary. I've never been advised against it.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2012, 02:33pm
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I almost never use it. I dunno why those working the tournament use it as often as they do...even on fouls where it's obvious who is committing the infraction.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2012, 03:25pm
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Yeah I only use it when I've got a foul in a crowd. Even then I usually point with one finger...probably a habit I need to break myself.
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2012, 05:04pm
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We've also been told that it's optional. So, if it's optional, how can it be a bad habit?
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Old Sat Mar 17, 2012, 09:27pm
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We've also been told that it's optional. So, if it's optional, how can it be a bad habit?
Maybe if you use it in completely the opposite times you should be using it?
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Old Sun Mar 18, 2012, 04:12pm
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I use it for the reason it is there to be used, for clarification purposes only. Usually when there are two or more players around and I need to make it clear which player this applied to. Mostly in plays in the lane.

Otherwise there is no reason to use the mechanic.

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Old Sun Mar 18, 2012, 09:36pm
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i use it for the reason it is there to be used, for clarification purposes only.
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Old Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:26am
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I don't remember using it at all. Any question on who committed the foul will be answered when I report.
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Yeah I only use it when I've got a foul in a crowd. Even then I usually point with one finger...
I use it in the same situation & also just a one finger point, while verbalizing "that's yours #12."
Never been told anything about doing it.
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Old Mon Mar 19, 2012, 09:54am
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I use it in the same situation & also just a one finger point, while verbalizing "that's yours #12."
Never been told anything about doing it.
Now that I think about it, I caught myself doing it this way once this year in the season. Then, oddly, I did it again Saturday in a men's rec game.
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Old Tue Mar 20, 2012, 12:45am
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Still use it

I was originally taught to use the bird dog, back in the early 1980s. During a school game, I only use it in a crowd. None of the young refs ever seem to use it.

In youth or recreation league games, the "uniforms" often only have numbers on the back. I find I bird dog a lot then, and often, my partner will shout out the number to me, so I don't have to do a little dance with the player to find his number.
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