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Old Wed Jun 18, 2003, 11:58am
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When A1 is dribbling down the sideline, ball goes off foot toward OOB, A1 jumps from inbounds, saves the ball, A1 touches OOB, then A1 comes back inbounds (establishes self inbounds) and is the first to touch the ball. What is the call? Or is that legal?
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2003, 12:01pm
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Entirely legal.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2003, 12:07pm
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Travel. The fumble and regain control is ok. but the save must be touched before A1 can touch again.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2003, 12:12pm
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I beg to differ

The play sounds legal to me - provided A1 did not hold the ball during the save. You have an interrupted dribble. The save is most likely a bat (so the dribble is still interrupted). A1 can come back on court and continue the dribble or catch the ball or bat it to a teammate.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2003, 12:19pm
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It's not traveling.

As PA Ref stated, if the save is a one handed bat, the play is legal.

If the save was a two handed bat, or a catch and save, it's a double dribble when he touches it again inbounds.

But it is not traveling and it is not a violation because he went OOB.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2003, 01:01pm
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Okay, Tony, I'll bite. What's the signature line quote from? Did you just finish the Great American Novel?
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2003, 01:20pm
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Travel. The fumble and regain control is ok. but the save must be touched before A1 can touch again.
Travel can only occur when a player's feet move beyond the prescribe limits while holding the ball.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2003, 02:14pm
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Okay, Tony, I'll bite. What's the signature line quote from? Did you just finish the Great American Novel?
From the movie "A river runs through it".

Also from google.
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Old Wed Jun 18, 2003, 04:32pm
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"A River Runs Through It"

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Okay, Tony, I'll bite. What's the signature line quote from? Did you just finish the Great American Novel?
It's the passage that Robert Redford cites, while an aging Norman is fishing alone in the final scene in the movie. Pretty deep stuff.
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Old Thu Jun 19, 2003, 01:28am
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Okay, Tony, I'll bite. What's the signature line quote from? Did you just finish the Great American Novel?
It's the passage that Robert Redford cites, while an aging Norman is fishing alone in the final scene in the movie. Pretty deep stuff.
I haven't read the book. But I don't see how it could be as good as The River Why by David James Duncan. But then, I'm not a fishing person, so I can't compare them to real life. Tangentially, The Brothers K by the same author is an incredible book. Fabulous baseball story. Almost enough to make me understand baseball.
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Old Thu Jun 19, 2003, 03:51am
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self pass?

someone tried to tell me that in the rules it states that if you shoot an airball and catch it, or let it bounce, without anyone touching it it's not a self pass/turnover if there was intent to shoot. This can't be true can it?
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Old Thu Jun 19, 2003, 05:53am
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Re: self pass?

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someone tried to tell me that in the rules it states that if you shoot an airball and catch it, or let it bounce, without anyone touching it it's not a self pass/turnover if there was intent to shoot. This can't be true can it?
As a matter of fact, this is true - the person informed you correctly. If in the official's judgement, it was a bonified attempt at a shot, you are permitted to recover your own rebound. It is not an infraction to be a crappy shooter.

However, if the official thinks that you're trying to circumvent the rules, she can call a travelling violation.

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Old Thu Jun 19, 2003, 08:05am
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Re: self pass?

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someone tried to tell me that in the rules it states that if you shoot an airball and catch it, or let it bounce, without anyone touching it it's not a self pass/turnover if there was intent to shoot. This can't be true can it?
Illegal in the NBA.Legal in high school or college games.
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Old Thu Jun 19, 2003, 09:11am
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Okay, Tony, I'll bite. What's the signature line quote from? Did you just finish the Great American Novel?
It's the passage that Robert Redford cites, while an aging Norman is fishing alone in the final scene in the movie. Pretty deep stuff.
I haven't read the book.
Juules, you've never seen the movie, "A River Runs Through It?"
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Old Thu Jun 19, 2003, 09:28am
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Juules, you've never seen the movie, "A River Runs Through It?"
I haven't either. I'm not a big Brad Pitt fan, and fishing is only slightly more appealing to me than drinking beer, which, of course, is integral to most fishing trips. Blech. I'd rather do a girls' freshman game, personally.
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