So folks, did the crew miss something on this one?

[MD Longhorn]

Originally Posted by BLydic

No, I know the rule and understand completely what constitutes "the basket".

I agree, by a very strict reading of the rule, this is BI. However, I feel pretty confident it doesn't fit the intent.

I've seen a basketball go this far into the net, hit the tight part just right (wrong?) and come right back out --- no basket. The player committing the BI here prevented that possibility. It's not a bucket until it comes out the bottom. Period.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

It's not a bucket until it comes out the bottom.

Dr. Naismith (and Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.) might disagree with you.

[Eastshire]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Dr. Naismith (and Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.) might disagree with you.

All due respect to Dr. Naismith, but we also only use one ball and just have 10 on the floor at once now too.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Eastshire

All due respect to Dr. Naismith, but we also only use one ball and just have 10 on the floor at once now too.

Back then, a young Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. had no trouble climbing up, and down, the ladder to get the ball out of the peach basket. Now he has trouble climbing out of bed every morning. It's true.

[Nevadaref]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

It's not a bucket until it comes out the bottom. Period.

Actually, the rule says that a goal is also scored if the ball simply remains in the basket. It does not have to pass entirely through.

[BLydic]

Originally Posted by JetMetFan

Cool. So didn't the offensive player do something which could illegally prevent...the ball from going in the basket? The rule doesn't say anything about touching the ball and causing it to come out of the basket.

Now why would an offensive player do something to prevent the ball from going in the basket?

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I've seen a basketball go this far into the net, hit the tight part just right (wrong?) and come right back out --- no basket. The player committing the BI here prevented that possibility. It's not a bucket until it comes out the bottom. Period.

Funny, my rule book says a goal is made when a live ball enters the basket from above and remains in OR passes through. Period.

But I do get what you are saying and after watching the video with that in mind, there's a bit more judgement involved with this particular play than I originally considered. However, I don't see the touch in this video as one that keeps the ball in the basket or prevents it from leaving. The ball bounces up off of the rim and then drops in, hardly one I would imagine all of a sudden hitting the bottom of the net and bouncing out.

Originally Posted by Toren

The ball changes direction as a result of the contact with the net, so either the hand also hit the ball or the result of the net grab lead to the ball being moved.

And all of that means what in regard to BI?

Originally Posted by Nevadaref

Actually, the rule says that a goal is also scored if the ball simply remains in the basket. It does not have to pass entirely through.

What he said ...

[JetMetFan]

Now why would an offensive player do something to prevent the ball from going in the basket?

No idea. But the BI rule doesn't differentiate between offensive and defensive players.

[Sharpshooternes]

So when is the ball considered to be "through the basket" then? All the way below the rim? All the way clear of the net. This post has confused me.

[just another ref]

Originally Posted by mbcrowder

I've seen a basketball go this far into the net, hit the tight part just right (wrong?) and come right back out --- no basket.

If that were the case, I would say you have a net problem which needs attention.