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Nevadaref Tue Mar 13, 2012 07:33pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 831724)
It's not a bucket until it comes out the bottom. Period.

Actually, the rule says that a goal is also scored if the ball simply remains in the basket. It does not have to pass entirely through.

just another ref Tue Mar 13, 2012 07:38pm

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 831724)
I've seen a basketball go this far into the net, hit the tight part just right (wrong?) and come right back out --- no basket.

If that were the case, I would say you have a net problem which needs attention.

BLydic Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:29pm

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Originally Posted by JetMetFan (Post 831710)
Cool. So didn't the offensive player do something which could illegally prevent...the ball from going in the basket? The rule doesn't say anything about touching the ball and causing it to come out of the basket.

Now why would an offensive player do something to prevent the ball from going in the basket?

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Originally Posted by mbcrowder (Post 831724)
I've seen a basketball go this far into the net, hit the tight part just right (wrong?) and come right back out --- no basket. The player committing the BI here prevented that possibility. It's not a bucket until it comes out the bottom. Period.

Funny, my rule book says a goal is made when a live ball enters the basket from above and remains in OR passes through. Period.

But I do get what you are saying and after watching the video with that in mind, there's a bit more judgement involved with this particular play than I originally considered. However, I don't see the touch in this video as one that keeps the ball in the basket or prevents it from leaving. The ball bounces up off of the rim and then drops in, hardly one I would imagine all of a sudden hitting the bottom of the net and bouncing out.

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Originally Posted by Toren (Post 831782)
The ball changes direction as a result of the contact with the net, so either the hand also hit the ball or the result of the net grab lead to the ball being moved.

And all of that means what in regard to BI?

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 831785)
Actually, the rule says that a goal is also scored if the ball simply remains in the basket. It does not have to pass entirely through.

What he said ...

JetMetFan Tue Mar 13, 2012 11:49pm

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Now why would an offensive player do something to prevent the ball from going in the basket?
No idea. But the BI rule doesn't differentiate between offensive and defensive players.

Sharpshooternes Thu Mar 15, 2012 01:33am

So when is the ball considered to be "through the basket" then? All the way below the rim? All the way clear of the net. This post has confused me.:o


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