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OrStBballRef Sat Mar 10, 2012 10:45pm

7 points in a championship game....7 dang points?!
 
Just got done watching the Oregon's 5A girls championship game online (our second biggest classification). Final score 16-7....halftime score was 4-0.

The team that lost didn't score their first point until a minute left in the 3Q on a FT. They were just content on passing the ball around the outside and wouldn't even take a shot if it was open....

A game for the ages....lol

Nevadaref Sun Mar 11, 2012 02:25am

Your state sits between CA and Washington, both of which have a shot clock for HS girls basketball. You will now have one next year. Be thankful. ;)

JetMetFan Sun Mar 11, 2012 02:46am

???
 
What really makes no sense to me is, from what I see in news reports, Willamette had lost to Springfield by only three in a game earlier in the season. The coach wasn't exactly showing a lot of confidence in his kids.

One report said the game lasted an hour. I wonder if the officials even had to shower after it was over? :)

rockyroad Sun Mar 11, 2012 09:48am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 831230)
Your state sits between CA and Washington, both of which have a shot clock for HS girls basketball. You will now have one next year. Be thankful. ;)

That is the main reason why WA went to the shot clock for Girls games a number of years ago. There were too many games like this. Not sure why we added the shot clock on the Boys side, but we have it on both now.

OrStBballRef Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:51am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 831230)
Your state sits between CA and Washington, both of which have a shot clock for HS girls basketball. You will now have one next year. Be thankful. ;)

The money isn't there for 3 man/women officiating crews so I don't think a shot clock is on the horizon either....

I do have to say though I've done a ton of high level GV games over the last couple of years and even the worst teams in the worst games still attacked and at least attempted to score. They would put up shots if they were open and no they often didn't go in but at least they attempted to score....more so then I can say for the game I watched last night.

In the summer here, there is a NCAA sanctioned summer tournament and I've been told it's the largest girls tourney in the country. Really good ball and they use NCAA-W rules which include a shot clock. It's fun for officials like me who don't get to use a shot clock at all during the year and I'm surprised since most of the teams come from non-shot clock states how few times the shot clock is an issue.

I still think the game last night was the exception to the rule...or at least I hope it is!

Tim C Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:54am

Shot Clock
 
There is currently no plan for Oregon to change to a shot clock.

Remember Oregon still uses two officials crew at even the state championship level games.

It will take a minimum of three years to change the protocal.

T

Washington Girls have used the shot clock for DECADES.

JetMetFan Sun Mar 11, 2012 11:56am

We don't need no stinkin' money...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by OrStBballRef (Post 831279)
The money isn't there for 3 man/women officiating crews so I don't think a shot clock is on the horizon either....

In NYS we use the shot clock for girls and AA boys (our highest level). Other than the few leagues willing to pay for a third official and the later rounds of the playoffs we use two-person crews.

Have no fear. If your leagues want to do it, money is no object! ;)

Mark Padgett Sun Mar 11, 2012 12:32pm

Here's the link to the story of the game:

Class 5A girls championship: Springfield defeats Willamette 16-7 after Wolverines' stall tactics fail - OregonLive.com

Hugh Refner Sun Mar 11, 2012 02:20pm

Sounds like the refs could have pulled chairs out onto the court and watched the game sitting down.

Camron Rust Sun Mar 11, 2012 08:02pm

One of those refs was an infrequent poster but frequent lurker on this board.

I won't reveal his identity unless he chooses to.

Here is the actual game if anyone wants to have something playing in the background while they sleep. OSAA.tv Video Portal

Rich Sun Mar 11, 2012 08:41pm

If I was trying a case for a shot clock, I would simply play a video of the second quarter and rest my case.

The spectators should ask for their money back.

OrStBballRef Sun Mar 11, 2012 09:10pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Camron Rust (Post 831356)
One of those refs was an infrequent poster but frequent lurker on this board.

I won't reveal his identity unless he chooses to.

Here is the actual game if anyone wants to have something playing in the background while they sleep. OSAA.tv Video Portal

Or we could just watch the Boys 5A championship game that you worked after the snooze fest that was the girls game :D

Congrats BTW!

twocentsworth Sun Mar 11, 2012 10:36pm

Imagine the excitement of being assigned to this game, showing up to officiate, and you have to endure THAT?.....yuck!

At least the crew didn't get paid by the whistle...:)

Nevadaref Mon Mar 12, 2012 07:16am

Anyone seen the film of Milan vs Muncie?

Even though White conceded the jump ball to begin the game, would anyone penalize Blue's jumper for catching the toss with one hand and throwing it to a teammate?

Announcer stated that Tyler Pendergast and Bill Draper were the officials, and that this would be the easiest game check that they ever received.

Welpe Mon Mar 12, 2012 08:44am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 831415)
Even though White conceded the jump ball to begin the game, would anyone penalize Blue's jumper for catching the toss with one hand and throwing it to a teammate?

I saw that also. Talk about an omen of things to come. I guess I'm OK with passing on a whistle here. White conceded the tip and I have to think that threw the blue player off enough to cause the violation.


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