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Rich Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:36pm

Video request - another block/charge
 
SoCon Final, Davidson/Western Carolina, 9:27 left in the second half. Anyone have this?

APG Mon Mar 05, 2012 11:10pm

I'll have it up later tonight if it isn't already posted by then.

JetMetFan Tue Mar 06, 2012 02:12am

It was extremely close but it should've been a PC. Sorry I can't post video but I had to go frame by frame on what I saw to determine the call.

I'm actually shocked Valentine didn't jump in and call it. He actually had a perfect view from the T.

APG Wed Mar 07, 2012 05:12am

<iframe width="560" height="315" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/Ewg5VFu5pUw" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Duffman Wed Mar 07, 2012 08:22am

I like the block

tref Wed Mar 07, 2012 09:29am

Quote:

Originally Posted by Duffman (Post 830406)
I like the block

Every day of the week & twice on Sundays.

ballgame99 Wed Mar 07, 2012 09:40am

B1 has LGP before A1 leaves the floor, so I think PC is the correct call. That said, from the L's vantqage point it probably did look like a block because B1 comes in from the side.

Rich Wed Mar 07, 2012 09:42am

Tell me what I'm missing here, guys:

2 feet down in front of the ball handler, contact in the torso. Looks like the defender established LGP before the shooter went airborne.

I'll admit this is very, very close -- I watched it a number of times on my DVR before thinking "this would be a good play for the forum."

tref Wed Mar 07, 2012 09:51am

Rich, in my opinion the left foot of the defender is still sliding to the right & his body moves slightly right when the contact occurs.

The endline angle is the best look.

gslefeb Wed Mar 07, 2012 09:51am

Charge
 
At :20 secs... Looks like defender obtains LGP while A1 is two steps away. Then the defender moves laterally and contact is in the chest.

fullor30 Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:02am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 830420)
Tell me what I'm missing here, guys:

2 feet down in front of the ball handler, contact in the torso. Looks like the defender established LGP before the shooter went airborne.

I'll admit this is very, very close -- I watched it a number of times on my DVR before thinking "this would be a good play for the forum."

+1 very close, I have PC from what I see.

twocentsworth Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:03am

I'd go PC on this...

here's my philosophy: "a block is a block, a charge is a charge, and everything else is a charge".

translation: the obvious blocking fouls are blocks, the obvious charges should be called a charge, and everything else in between those two - are charges.

officials default to a blocking foul WAY too much, imho.

Rich Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by twocentsworth (Post 830427)
I'd go PC on this...

here's my philosophy: "a block is a block, a charge is a charge, and everything else is a charge".

translation: the obvious blocking fouls are blocks, the obvious charges should be called a charge, and everything else in between those two - are charges.

officials default to a blocking foul WAY too much, imho.

I'd rather apply consistent principles than default to anything. I could see this one going either way, especially having to do so in real time.

Da Official Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:09am

Not sure what else the defender could have done better.....LGP is there...I would have liked an offensive foul there but close enough where a block is acceptable.

tref Wed Mar 07, 2012 10:10am

Quote:

Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 830428)
I'd rather apply consistent principles than default to anything. I could see this one going either way, especially having to do so in real time.

Was there a similar 50/50 play that was called a block earlier in the game?


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