You Make The Call

[refiator]

Close, but I have a block or nothing.

[rockyroad]

The C is standing there flat footed...never moves to get an angle on the play. No way he can even see what happens there. And then he stands there shaking his head from side to side...all he had to do was take one step up or down and he would have been able to make the call. Have to fight for an angle on plays all the time.

[All_Heart]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

The C is standing there flat footed...never moves to get an angle on the play. No way he can even see what happens there. And then he stands there shaking his head from side to side...all he had to do was take one step up or down and he would have been able to make the call. Have to fight for an angle on plays all the time.

I'll have to disagree with this. The C is in perfect position to referee this play. Only "Move to Improve". C's position has nothing do with him not having a whistle on the play. I'll bet in hindsight that if he had a chance to call it again he would.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by All_Heart

I'll have to disagree with this. The C is in perfect position to referee this play. Only "Move to Improve". C's position has nothing do with him not having a whistle on the play. I'll bet in hindsight that if he had a chance to call it again he would.

Agreed, I think the C had a great look. Just missed the call. I'm quite sure when he saw the tape he said "Doh!!!".

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by All_Heart

I'll have to disagree with this. The C is in perfect position to referee this play. Only "Move to Improve". C's position has nothing do with him not having a whistle on the play. I'll bet in hindsight that if he had a chance to call it again he would.

Ok...then I will have to disagree with you, too. Once the offensive player started his move, the C was looking at nothing but the dribbler's back. No way he could see the knee that got stuck out there by the defender. Imho, that's why he didn't have a whistle on the play. He should have "moved to improve" on this play.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

Ok...then I will have to disagree with you, too. Once the offensive player started his move, the C was looking at nothing but the dribbler's back. No way he could see the knee that got stuck out there by the defender. Imho, that's why he didn't have a whistle on the play. He should have "moved to improve" on this play.

I noticed that, too, when I watched it. I think he couldn't tell who was responsible so he hesitated and eventually gave up on the call.

[rockyroad]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I noticed that, too, when I watched it. I think he couldn't tell who was responsible so he hesitated and eventually gave up on the call.

Agreed...and since we are guessing here, my guess is that he thought the ball handler created contact and he wasn't going to "bail him out" after the player lost the ball. That's why he was shaking his head "no". Again - just guessing here.

[rockyroad]

Uh-oh, snaqs...more "group think"?? Or is that "GROUP THINK"?

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by refiator

Close, but I have a block or nothing.

If there is one type of play that John Adams preaches and preaches should be a Freedom of Movement foul this play is it.

[twocentsworth]

Originally Posted by refiator

Close, but I have a block or nothing.

this cannot be "nothing"...either a block or a charge, but definitely not "nothing"....

is it incidental contact? NO
is it marginal contact? NO
is it contact that warrants a foul? YES