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Old Sun Mar 04, 2012, 11:56pm
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How is this awful? The shooter is airborne returns back to the floor safely and still crashes into the defender.
The awful thinking is that it is one call early in the half and a different call with 4.4 seconds left.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 12:07am
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The awful thinking is that it is one call early in the half and a different call with 4.4 seconds left.
Brad, come on!! You're a very knowledgeable individual. You know that same exact call will not be made with that little time left on the clock.

The mindset: Let the player decide the game. Not realizing officials decide the game when they adjudge to rule that amount of contact as incidental with that little time left on the clock.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 12:13am
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Brad, come on!! You're a very knowledgeable individual. You know that same exact call will not be made with that little time left on the clock.

The mindset: Let the player decide the game. Not realizing officials decide the game when they adjudge to rule that amount of contact as incidental with that little time left on the clock.
Not calling a foul is not "letting the players decide" the game. This is not what they teach at the NCAA or NBA level. It shouldn't be done in high school either and, if it is, it's wrong.

For the record, I think it should be a no call early in the half, late in the half, end of the game, at half court, under the basket, in the box, with a fox, on a boat, with a goat, etc.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 12:50am
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truerookie, i have to agree with brad here. if you think this is a foul at any other time or place in the game than it is a foul with 4.4 seconds left. if you dont think it is a foul, than it shouldnt be a foul regardless of time or place in the game. if you base your calls on the philosophy that you would call this a foul early in the game but not late, you wont be in this business for long.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 09:32am
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Not calling a foul is not "letting the players decide" the game. This is not what they teach at the NCAA or NBA level. It shouldn't be done in high school either and, if it is, it's wrong.

For the record, I think it should be a no call early in the half, late in the half, end of the game, at half court, under the basket, in the box, with a fox, on a boat, with a goat, etc.
Ok!
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 10:04am
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For the record, I think it should be a no call early in the half, late in the half, end of the game, at half court, under the basket, in the box, with a fox, on a boat, with a goat, etc.
F*!@ing HILARIOUS!! Post of the Month!

This is a great no call! (I'm going with the majority here b/c I don't know how to think for myself )
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 10:09am
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in the box, with a fox, on a boat, with a goat, etc.
Brad: You're a few days late. Dr. Suess' birthday was Friday, March 2.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 10:15am
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Wow! I didn't even see Brad's "Dr. Seuss" response. The groupthink is strong with this bunch.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 10:22am
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Wow! I didn't even see Brad's "Dr. Seuss" response. The groupthink is strong with this bunch.
The Kool Aid was delicious.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 10:34am
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There's a Jonestown joke in there to be told but I'll save it for somebody else...the punchline is too long.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 09:35am
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Look I will just observe MARCH MADNESS and see how consistent a similiar play being discussed here will be called throughout the tournment.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 09:57am
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Groupthink, it really is the choice of a new generation.

At any rate, I'll join the burgeoning hivemind and say I have no call on this. Not in the first minute of the game, not at the end where there is much fame to gain.

Neigh...no call, no way.
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 09:59am
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Look I will just observe MARCH MADNESS and see how consistent a similiar play being discussed here will be called throughout the tournment.
If you watched games this weekend you would have seen similar plays that had no whistle on them.

And what you label "GROUPTHINK" is often "EXPERIENCE". And maybe some with more experience than you, including the officials in that game, have determined the difference between a "crash" (Harvard/Penn) and "incidental contact" (TSU/MSU).
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 12:23pm
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If you watched games this weekend you would have seen similar plays that had no whistle on them.

And what you label "GROUPTHINK" is often "EXPERIENCE". And maybe some with more experience than you, including the officials in that game, have determined the difference between a "crash" (Harvard/Penn) and "incidental contact" (TSU/MSU).
Does the groupthink comment bother you? If not why continue to attempt to justify it?
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Old Mon Mar 05, 2012, 02:33pm
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Does the groupthink comment bother you? If not why continue to attempt to justify it?
Justify what? Why would I have to justify YOUR comment? Now you are just not making sense, which I guess wouldn't be a first.


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Brad, come on!! You're a very knowledgeable individual. You know that same exact call will not be made with that little time left on the clock.

The mindset: Let the player decide the game. Not realizing officials decide the game when they adjudge to rule that amount of contact as incidental with that little time left on the clock.
Funny, I just watched John Adams' season ending video in which he criticizes a crew for not making a illegal screen call with 9.0 seconds left in a 3-point game and his commentary was basically "a foul is a foul no matter what the time on the clock".

So, I'm wondering, what GROUPTHINK Tank is controlling your thought patterns?
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