Tenn St/Murray St - Page 2

Brad · #16 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 04, 2012, 10:19am

The no call is correct here. Defender is trying to get in there and create contact — he is moving slightly under the shooter. The shooter doesn't make very much contact though. You can tell, because the shooter never goes to the floor.

This is what a flop looks like folks.

JugglingReferee · #17 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 04, 2012, 10:57am

I'd like to see the play that "was similar just a few minutes earlier".

Toren · #18 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 04, 2012, 08:12pm

First viewing, I say no call.

truerookie · #19 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 04, 2012, 08:25pm

I say if this was in the early part of the half. This would be a PC. By it being with 4.4 seconds left you will not get this call.

Brad · #20 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 04, 2012, 09:34pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by truerookie

I say if this was in the early part of the half. This would be a PC. By it being with 4.4 seconds left you will not get this call.

That is awful thinking and I hope that you don't really referee that way.

Raymond · #21 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 04, 2012, 10:01pm

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Originally Posted by truerookie

I say if this was in the early part of the half. This would be a PC. By it being with 4.4 seconds left you will not get this call.

It was not a PC at any point in the game. A1 landed followed by incidental contact with B1.

Adam · #22 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 04, 2012, 10:45pm

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Originally Posted by Brad

That is awful thinking and I hope that you don't really referee that way.

Won't get past middle school with that mindset in most areas.

truerookie · #23 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 04, 2012, 11:51pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

It was not a PC at any point in the game. A1 landed followed by incidental contact with B1.

So, it's ok to crash even after you land. You stated yourself he returned back to the floor and followed by incidental contact. So he landed safely and still crashes into the defender.

truerookie · #24 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 04, 2012, 11:53pm

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Originally Posted by Brad

That is awful thinking and I hope that you don't really referee that way.

How is this awful? The shooter is airborne returns back to the floor safely and still crashes into the defender.

Brad · #25 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 04, 2012, 11:56pm

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Originally Posted by truerookie

How is this awful? The shooter is airborne returns back to the floor safely and still crashes into the defender.

The awful thinking is that it is one call early in the half and a different call with 4.4 seconds left.

Nevadaref · #26 (**permalink**) Sun Mar 04, 2012, 11:58pm

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Originally Posted by truerookie

So, it's ok to crash even after you land. You stated yourself he returned back to the floor and followed by incidental contact. So he landed safely and still crashes into the defender.

The difference is that he ajudges the contact to be incidental while you are calling it a crash. Those are two very different things and why you are not in agreement.

truerookie · #27 (**permalink**) Mon Mar 05, 2012, 12:00am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Won't get past middle school with that mindset in most areas.

Snaqwells you should be a fortune teller. The one thing I will not do is allow GROUPTHINK influence how I should apply a rule. I stand by my assessment. You will not get this call with that little time on the clock versus the early part of the half.

I really enjoy how you and your GROUPTHINK MEMBERS can make an assessment of others and haven't even seen them on the court/film/person or anything.

truerookie · #28 (**permalink**) Mon Mar 05, 2012, 12:03am

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref

The difference is that he ajudges the contact to be incidental while you are calling it a crash. Those are two very different things and why you are not in agreement.

I stand by my assesment. The same principle applies if this play happened at half court. A crash happened

Brad · #29 (**permalink**) Mon Mar 05, 2012, 12:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by truerookie

Snaqwells you should be a fortune teller. The one thing I will not do is allow GROUPTHINK influence how I should apply a rule. I stand by my assessment. You will not get this call with that little time on the clock versus the early part of the half.

I really enjoy how you and your GROUPTHINK MEMBERS can make an assessment of others and haven't even seen them on the court/film/person or anything.

Every stop to think that it's not GROUPTHINK, but several individuals agreeing, which makes it a CONSENSUS?

My response was based on what you WROTE. It's awful thinking. And if you referee like that, it's awful. I don't need to see you on the court to determine that.

You can be a great guy and a good referee and still be wrong

Brad · #30 (**permalink**) Mon Mar 05, 2012, 12:06am

Quote:

Originally Posted by truerookie

I stand by my assesment. The same principle applies if this play happened at half court. A crash happened

A crash involves two people ... in this clip only one went to the floor.

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