Request for APG- UNLV vs Colardo state

[fiasco]

I've got incidental contact here. What, you want to penalize the defensive player just for running behind the offensive player?

Good no-call.

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by fiasco

I've got incidental contact here. What, you want to penalize the defensive player just for running behind the offensive player?

Good no-call.

I know this is NCAA and I do not know the NCAA rule set, but do you hold the same opinion in FED?

[bainsey]

This is one of those examples where you have to know there was contact before calling the foul. I had to run it back a few times before I was convinced there was a trip. Considering the lead's angle, I can easily see why no call was made.

[johnny d]

Fiasco's statement is ridiculous. The defender tripped the offensive player. This cannot be incidental contact, and should be called a foul on any level.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by johnny d

Fiasco's statement is ridiculous. The defender tripped the offensive player. This cannot be incidental contact, and should be called a foul on any level.

Define "tripped."

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Define "tripped."

I can't see the video here at work (all YouTube videos cut off after no more than a minute), but if there is any contact between A1 and B1, B1 is behind, and A1 goes to the floor, then it's a foul on B1.

[Scratch85]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

but if there is any contact between A1 and B1, B1 is behind, and A1 goes to the floor, then it's a foul on B1.

As it relates to the OP, I agree.

FED only: If A1 and B1 are traveling in the same direction, any contact that occurs is the responsibility of B1. If B1 is approaching from an angle, normal screening rules apply to the dribbler.

[Indianaref]

I don't know how you don't have a foul on this play.

[HawkeyeCubP]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Define "tripped."

"Fouled." There's a difference between the terms "incidental" and "accidental." The latter does not necessarily equal the former.

[Adam]

After actually watching it, I really can't understand the no-call. Unless they both miraculously tripped over themselves at exactly the same moment, this one calls itself.

Looks like the lead wants to give the ball back to the offense, but can't justify it since he didn't call the foul. He should have just called the foul.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

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Looks like the lead wants to give the ball back to the offense, but can't justify it since he didn't call the foul. He should have just called the foul.

"Just give the ball back to XYZ instead of whistling the foul" has kinda gone to the wayside. And I don't think coaches liked much anyway. Now folks are looking at it as 2 missed calls--missed foul; called the ball out on the wrong team.

[twocentsworth]

this is easy....this is a FOUL every day of the week and THREE times on Sunday!

Not sure what the lead was thinking (must have been surprised by it), but that is a foul. If I'm C - I'm blowing my whistle and then receiving a "long-distance" "thumbs up" from John Adams back in Indy!

[Jay R]

That's a foul. end of story.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by fiasco

I've got incidental contact here. What, you want to penalize the defensive player just for running behind the offensive player?

Good no-call.

Seriously? The player behind is responsible for contact. He's not just running behind the player, he's running into the player from behind.

[berserkBBK]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

Seriously? The player behind is responsible for contact. He's not just running behind the player, he's running into the player from behind.

This is what I was have. The contact may be accidental, but not incidental. A clear advantage was gained from the contact.