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BillyMac Tue Feb 21, 2012 07:16am

Pepperidge Farm Remembers ...
 
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 826179)
I don't ever remember reading a Casebook Play or Approved Ruling that requires only names of the players who are present to be in the Scorebook.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: Do you remember the 2005 IAABO Refresher Exam? Do you remember getting question #73 wrong? Do you remember being pissed that you got the question wrong, especially after you discovered that this was not an error on the answer sheet? Do you remember where you left your car keys?

I realize that it's not a "Casebook Play or Approved Ruling, but it does, or did, carry some weight among IAABO members.

73) Squad member #45 missed the bus and is not present at the time the squad list and starting lineup must be submitted for team members. During the pregame warm up, the referee counts eleven team members for team A, but while checking the book, team A has twelve team members listed. Referee informs the coach that the squad member who is not present may not be placed in the book, even if he/she will get to the game late. Is the referee correct?

73) Yes: Rule 3, Section 2, Article 1, Rule 4, Section 34, Article 4.

3-2-1: At least ten minutes before the scheduled starting time, each team shall supply the official scorer with the name and number of each team member and designate the five starting players. Failure to comply results in a technical foul (see 10-1-1 Penalty).

4-34-4: A team member is a member of bench personnel who is in uniform and is eligible to become a player.

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Feb 21, 2012 01:15pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 826228)
Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.: Do you remember the 2005 IAABO Refresher Exam? Do you remember getting question #73 wrong? Do you remember being pissed that you got the question wrong, especially after you discovered that this was not an error on the answer sheet? Do you remember where you left your car keys?

I realize that it's not a "Casebook Play or Approved Ruling, but it does, or did, carry some weight among IAABO members.

73) Squad member #45 missed the bus and is not present at the time the squad list and starting lineup must be submitted for team members. During the pregame warm up, the referee counts eleven team members for team A, but while checking the book, team A has twelve team members listed. Referee informs the coach that the squad member who is not present may not be placed in the book, even if he/she will get to the game late. Is the referee correct?

73) Yes: Rule 3, Section 2, Article 1, Rule 4, Section 34, Article 4.

3-2-1: At least ten minutes before the scheduled starting time, each team shall supply the official scorer with the name and number of each team member and designate the five starting players. Failure to comply results in a technical foul (see 10-1-1 Penalty).

4-34-4: A team member is a member of bench personnel who is in uniform and is eligible to become a player.


Billy:

I remember getting the 2005 IAABO Refresher Exam. BUT, here in Ohio members of Board #55 were not required to take the exam because Ohio was not then and still is not an IAABO state (:(). The answer given for Question #73 probably didn't register with me because I knew it to be wrong and that somebody else would notify IAABO.

I received that Refresher Exam in early October 2004. I did not attend the Fall Interpreters Meeting in Cape Cod that year (last weekend of Sep. 2004). Junior was a FR in H.S., Andy was in 6th grade, Bonnie was attending college at night to finish her bachelor's degree, and she and I were both very active as volunteers with the various committees within the Toledo Public Schools, not to mention I had a full schedule of boys' and girls' H.S. soccer games that Fall as well as a full schedule of Fall baseball and fastpitch softball games.

I am sure I went through the exam and made notes (I am not climbing up into the attic to check what notes I made, :p.) but I really didn't take umbrage over the mistake because I was sure that somebody would correct it eventually.

MTD, Sr.

P.S. Yes, and I do forget where I put car keys because I am a doddering bald old geezer. LOL

BillyMac Tue Feb 21, 2012 01:35pm

What Goes Up, Must Come Back Down ...
 
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 826323)
I am sure I went through the exam and made notes. I am not climbing up into the attic to check what notes I made.

C'mon Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Your attic has to be warming up by now. Take a couple of aspirin, and make the trip up those steps. Get your notes, and be sure to rest before you try to come back down. Or just toss the notes down to your better half. We would really like to see your notes regarding this question.

BillyMac Tue Feb 21, 2012 01:45pm

I've Been Searchin' So Long To Find An Answer (Chicago) ...
 
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Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. (Post 826323)
I was sure that somebody would correct it eventually.

Well? Have they? I hope that you weren't holding your breath. And by "they", I mean either IAABO "International" or, better yet, the NFHS.


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