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Old Sun Feb 12, 2012, 07:57pm
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If we're to be accurate, the C or T should've blown this dead immediately, making it a 3 for blue and a throw-in violation for white, correct?

Now, let's say your the C or the T, and you think the ball went in, but continued the play until the next dead ball. Obviously, you'd get the crew together about it, but the only thing you could do is award the 3, and let all other play stand (no throw-in violation), correct?
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Old Sun Feb 12, 2012, 11:10pm
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Now, let's say your the C or the T, and you think the ball went in, but continued the play until the next dead ball. Obviously, you'd get the crew together about it, but the only thing you could do is award the 3, and let all other play stand (no throw-in violation), correct?
No. If I think the ball went in, I immediately kill the play. Award the points or give the ball to white, who had the ball when I killed the play.

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If you pause the video just right, or use this video the ball clearly goes through the basket:

I paused the video over and over and I don't see the ball clearly going in the basket. I see the ball hitting the net. The quality of the video is not good enough to see whether the ball goes through the ring or not.

All things being equal, there's no hesitation by the C, the T or the players. No players are raising their arms and yelling for a basket. The hand is quicker than the eye. I've got no basket.

BTW, if the ball is in the net, the player who jumped for the pass has his hand on the rim, which is BI.
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Old Sun Feb 12, 2012, 11:20pm
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I'm not convinced the basket was good either, I don't think the video is quite good enough to really tell.
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Old Mon Feb 13, 2012, 04:53am
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If we're to be accurate, the C or T should've blown this dead immediately, making it a 3 for blue and a throw-in violation for white, correct?

Now, let's say your the C or the T, and you think the ball went in, but continued the play until the next dead ball. Obviously, you'd get the crew together about it, but the only thing you could do is award the 3, and let all other play stand (no throw-in violation), correct?
First...It's a three. If you pause the video at about 0:11 you can see the ball above the rim and then a split-second later it takes a sharp left turn. I went to a science high school so I know there's no way a ball does that in mid-air by itself.

Second...If I happen to stop it and award the goal I'm not calling a throw-in violation. I'd just give the ball to White. Given the general confusion on the court I think that makes sense.

Third...yes, if you figured things out after the foul you'd just award the 3 and go to the POI which is whatever penalty is being administered for the foul.
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Old Mon Feb 13, 2012, 09:43am
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Does the ball change direction from hitting the rim...or from hitting the player? I'm still not convinced from the video.
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Old Mon Feb 13, 2012, 01:17pm
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Does the ball change direction from hitting the rim...or from hitting the player? I'm still not convinced from the video.
I think it went in. It looked (to me) that it changed direction before the player got to it...which means it was the rim and only the inside of the rim could have changed it in the way that it changed.
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Old Mon Feb 13, 2012, 01:29pm
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Any of you saying that you aren't sure the ball went in really need to visit your optometrist soon!!

The ball *clearly* goes in. If you need to go back and slo-mo or freeze frame it, it is even *more* obvious!

It seems like everyone knows it went in too, except for the kid that grabbed it and took off back up the court.

Looks to me like the lead thought it went in too based on his body language. He should have blown the play dead and instructed the other team to take the ball OOB.

If all three officials somehow do not know it went in (which is a travesty in and of itself!), they should ask the table for help. It should be obvious based on the protest by the coach, fans, etc. that they missed it!

Not a very good way to start off the game!
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Old Mon Feb 13, 2012, 01:31pm
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Any of you saying that you aren't sure the ball went in really need to visit your optometrist soon!!
Wouldn't be the first time I've been called blind in reference to a basketball game, but usually I hear that from the fans.
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Old Mon Feb 13, 2012, 01:48pm
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Wouldn't be the first time I've been called blind in reference to a basketball game, but usually I hear that from the fans.
LOL ... Well, we really should be getting the ones that we can watch over and over again on video correct!
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