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HawkeyeCubP Thu Feb 09, 2012 03:13pm

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 822165)
I think I will go with the bounce, 1 and 1 signal plus verbalization, catch, administer, back out of the key and signal 1 and 1 to the table. Another minor detail, what are your opinions on 1 and 1 signal in front or with arms straight out to the side with one finger up on each hand. I have seen both.

If you're talking about the outside official (T in 2-person or C in 3-person), technically speaking, I believe, the first is an NCAAW signal, the other is the high school/NCAAM signal. To my knowledge, none of the three actually speak to whether or not to show and/or how to show to the table after the L backs out.

RookieDude Thu Feb 09, 2012 03:25pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 822161)
The less said, the better, imo. No "bonus", "double bonus" (there's no such thing, btw), "let it hit", "gentlemen", "ladies", "basket was good..."

I'm not real proud of it...but, I do say "let it hit". I never say..."rest on the first one". Just "2" if there are 2 shots.

I don't say "let it hit the rim" and I used to say "let it hit something"...so I have shortened it somewhat. I think the verbalization just shows the players that I'm watching for early entry into the lane.

For 1 and 1...I hold the ball in one hand, and raise both hands with one finger on each hand extended. Maybe not the best way...but, that's how I do it.

I then, of course, back out...looking at the table...with my signal- 1 and 1, 1, 2, or 3 shots.

Raymond Thu Feb 09, 2012 03:27pm

Hook 'em Horns while torquing my wrist back and forth and loudly verbalizing 1 and 1. Each index finger high up in the air toward table once I get back to the endline.

Used to do the index fingers up while the ball bounces but some clinician I respected thought I should change it so I did.

Adam Thu Feb 09, 2012 03:45pm

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Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 822147)
does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

Not anymore....

bob jenkins Thu Feb 09, 2012 03:52pm

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Originally Posted by Sharpshooternes (Post 822165)
I think I will go with the bounce, 1 and 1 signal plus verbalization, catch, administer, back out of the key and signal 1 and 1 to the table.

FWIW, it's a (slight) negative here for L to signal to the table. That's C's (or T's in 2 person) job.

Adam Thu Feb 09, 2012 03:53pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 822190)
I'm not real proud of it...but, I do say "let it hit". I never say..."rest on the first one". Just "2" if there are 2 shots.

I don't say "let it hit the rim" and I used to say "let it hit something"...so I have shortened it somewhat. I think the verbalization just shows the players that I'm watching for early entry into the lane.

For 1 and 1...I hold the ball in one hand, and raise both hands with one finger on each hand extended. Maybe not the best way...but, that's how I do it.

I then, of course, back out...looking at the table...with my signal- 1 and 1, 1, 2, or 3 shots.

Sometimes, I say "let it hit," or "watch your toes" (in lower level games when I see a need), but not as often as I used to. Now that I think of it, I can't remember saying it this season in a game higher than middle school.

Sharpshooternes Thu Feb 09, 2012 03:59pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 822201)
FWIW, it's a (slight) negative here for L to signal to the table. That's C's (or T's in 2 person) job.

Good point Bob. Thanks.

Rob1968 Thu Feb 09, 2012 04:06pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 822128)
Hold the ball between your hands and raise both index fingers

+1 Then, I bounce the ball to the shooter, and show the two index fingers, as I back out of the lane.

Camron Rust Thu Feb 09, 2012 04:39pm

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Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 822147)
does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

The only time I add such extra info is when I work a level that has players that just don't know what is going on....and technically hitting ANYTHING is adequate, not just the rim. So, "Let it hit" is sufficient and more accurate.

onetime1 Thu Feb 09, 2012 04:51pm

I usually put the ball between my knees and squeeze hard to keep it there. This allows me to both verbal and visual the one and one signal with no problem. Also gives kind of a suzanne somers workout for my thighs during the game.

tref Thu Feb 09, 2012 04:53pm

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Originally Posted by onetime1 (Post 822226)
I usually put the ball between my knees and squeeze hard to keep it there. This allows me to both verbal and visual the one and one signal with no problem. Also gives kind of a suzanne somers workout for my thighs during the game.

You forgot your: :D

Adam Thu Feb 09, 2012 04:54pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 822227)
You forgot your: :D

It was implied.

tref Thu Feb 09, 2012 04:55pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 822229)
It was implied.

Just when I learned to stop assuming 'round here...

Adam Thu Feb 09, 2012 05:07pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 822231)
Just when I learned to stop assuming 'round here...

You just have to know when to assume. It's more of an art than a science. :D

tref Thu Feb 09, 2012 05:09pm

Niiice!


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