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ballgame99 Thu Feb 09, 2012 02:40pm

does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

jeschmit Thu Feb 09, 2012 02:41pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 822141)
In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.

I use the, "Hold the ball between your hands and raise both index fingers" method as well. However, I also look to the table as I'm backing out to my position under the basket and signal to them that we have a one and one situation with my two index fingers raised. This does show up well on video.

EDIT: HawkeyeCub beat me to it!

tref Thu Feb 09, 2012 02:41pm

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Originally Posted by HawkeyeCubP (Post 822146)
I think it does if you do it right. And add the same both index finger signal toward the table after you back out.

+1 That will definitely show up!

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Originally Posted by jeschmit (Post 822149)
I use the, "Hold the ball between your hands and raise both index fingers" method as well. However, I also look to the table as I'm backing out to my position under the basket and signal to them that we have a one and one situation with my two index fingers raised. This does show up well on video.

Yup!

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Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 822147)
does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

What if it hits the backboard first?
We dont coach.

fullor30 Thu Feb 09, 2012 02:44pm

bounce ball and drop my whistle as I don't use a lanyard, and signal. I then juggle to catch both ball and whistle, hopefully both on first bounce.

rockyroad Thu Feb 09, 2012 02:44pm

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Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 822147)
does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

Nope...the less you say the better off you will be.

HawkeyeCubP Thu Feb 09, 2012 02:44pm

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Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 822147)
does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

Holy heck, that's a pet peeve of mine. And I feel a thread hijack coming on. One that I'll be fighting not to join in on repeatedly.

fullor30 Thu Feb 09, 2012 02:45pm

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Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 822147)
does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?


Nails on chalkboard

HawkeyeCubP Thu Feb 09, 2012 02:45pm

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Originally Posted by rockyroad (Post 822154)
Nope...the less you say the better off you will be.

+1

"1"
"2"
"3"
or
"1 and 1"
Nice and (appropriately) loud. That's it.

Toren Thu Feb 09, 2012 02:47pm

I use to do index fingers out while holding the ball. I did not like the way it looked on video.

I have now switched to bouncing the ball and signaling. I still back out and show 1-1 to the table. I usually say either "bonus 1 and 1" or "1 and 1".

I have found this new method, hard as hell to get use to. Either my cordination I crappy as I get older, or it's always been crappy :eek:

I will give it the whole summer to get better at it though, if it's not better by next winter, I will consider switching back.

bob jenkins Thu Feb 09, 2012 02:48pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 822141)
In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.

Well, it's completely different from my 2-shot or 1-shot signal.

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Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 822147)
does no one verbalize a "play it off the rim" or "rest on the first"?

Nope. The less said, the better, imo. No "bonus", "double bonus" (there's no such thing, btw), "let it hit", "gentlemen", "ladies", "basket was good..."

Sharpshooternes Thu Feb 09, 2012 03:01pm

I think I will go with the bounce, 1 and 1 signal plus verbalization, catch, administer, back out of the key and signal 1 and 1 to the table. Another minor detail, what are your opinions on 1 and 1 signal in front or with arms straight out to the side with one finger up on each hand. I have seen both.

Adam Thu Feb 09, 2012 03:02pm

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Originally Posted by tref (Post 822141)
In the event of any miscommunication between players/coaches & officials, this method doesnt really show up well on video.

Has this ever really been an issue?

dsqrddgd909 Thu Feb 09, 2012 03:10pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 822161)
Well, it's completely different from my 2-shot or 1-shot signal.



Nope. The less said, the better, imo. No "bonus", "double bonus" (there's no such thing, btw), "let it hit", "gentlemen", "ladies", "basket was good..."

Wow, now I've got another thing to work on. :(

tref Thu Feb 09, 2012 03:11pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 822166)
Has this ever really been an issue?

Had a situation a few seasons ago where I said 1 & 1, while holding the ball & indicating as others have stated. The defenders were the only ones to move on the miss & the shooting teams players/coach swore I said 2. Unfortunately the single camera shot was from opposite table, so when I backed out, that didnt show up either.

Thats all, just a negative personal experience.

onetime1 Thu Feb 09, 2012 03:11pm

Great thread. I usually verbalize "Bonus 1 and 1" But know I should subtract one of these. Should I just say the word "Bonus" or go with "1 and 1"


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