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Old Thu Feb 09, 2012, 11:56pm
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What are you a soccer official?

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No but I play soccer. Can't say I have ever seen it in basketball. I wish there was more of it though when players knew the refs got the wrong call. Or for injuries. Yeah a team can try and score four on five but that isn't all that sporting. Just stop the attack to the basket and take the ball out once the officials stop the clock.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 12:09am
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No but I play soccer. Can't say I have ever seen it in basketball. I wish there was more of it though when players knew the refs got the wrong call. Or for injuries. Yeah a team can try and score four on five but that isn't all that sporting. Just stop the attack to the basket and take the ball out once the officials stop the clock.
In soccer, no team is going to give away a free kick/throw-in if the officials get it wrong. When was the last time you saw a team intentionally miss a P.K. because they knew the C.R. got it wrong? Heck soccer players are the most notorious athletes in regards to trying to fool the officials by diving at the slightest bit of contact.

And you can't expect players on a court to stop play when they have an advantage...most of the time they wouldn't even know if they have that advantage because they're quicker than the other team or a player was injured...once someone was able to recognize it, it would probably mean that they've pulled the ball out, and by rule we're blowing the play dead.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 12:41am
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In soccer, no team is going to give away a free kick/throw-in if the officials get it wrong. When was the last time you saw a team intentionally miss a P.K. because they knew the C.R. got it wrong? Heck soccer players are the most notorious athletes in regards to trying to fool the officials by diving at the slightest bit of contact.

And you can't expect players on a court to stop play when they have an advantage...most of the time they wouldn't even know if they have that advantage because they're quicker than the other team or a player was injured...once someone was able to recognize it, it would probably mean that they've pulled the ball out, and by rule we're blowing the play dead.
Yeah you are probably right on the professional level. It is not such a big deal to us here just playing for rec. OK, you win. Just saying, it would be nice if there was more honesty/sportsmanship though. "No ref, i touched it last."
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 12:48am
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Yeah you are probably right on the professional level. It is not such a big deal to us here just playing for rec. OK, you win. Just saying, it would be nice if there was more honesty/sportsmanship though. "No ref, i touched it last."
I think you've been seen that one Values commercial one too many times.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 08:56am
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I think you've been seen that one Values commercial one too many times.
Did you notice the "ref' calls it "blue" ball?
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:14am
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This is a direct to the head coach, correct?
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 01:57pm
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Did you notice the "ref' calls it "blue" ball?
That commercial irritates my wife so badly every time it comes on. Hilarious.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 10:15am
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In soccer, no team is going to give away a free kick/throw-in if the officials get it wrong. When was the last time you saw a team intentionally miss a P.K. because they knew the C.R. got it wrong? Heck soccer players are the most notorious athletes in regards to trying to fool the officials by diving at the slightest bit of contact.
No, but soccer players do routinely put the ball out of play so injured players can be seen to. Then, the team with the restart will play the ball back to the team who had the injured player defensive third and allow that team to start possession from there 95% of the time. If this doesn't happen, you usually have a very tense situation to try to defuse. It's one of the strongest unwritten rules of any sport I know.

That's the example that was being referenced.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 11:29am
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No, but soccer players do routinely put the ball out of play so injured players can be seen to. Then, the team with the restart will play the ball back to the team who had the injured player defensive third and allow that team to start possession from there 95% of the time. If this doesn't happen, you usually have a very tense situation to try to defuse. It's one of the strongest unwritten rules of any sport I know.

That's the example that was being referenced.
I know that...hence why I referred to why in basketball, that practice would be unrealistic and unnecessary (under NFHS and NCAA rules).
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 12:34pm
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I know that...hence why I referred to why in basketball, that practice would be unrealistic and unnecessary (under NFHS and NCAA rules).
I don't think it needs to be unrealistic (unless you think basketball players and coaches are that much more ruthless than their soccer counterparts). As to necessity, what other choice does a coach who doesn't want to "win that way" have? He can't decline the penalty as if it's football.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 01:14pm
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This story is making news all across the country. I agree with those who say the visiting AD/Head Coach were @$$es for forcing the officials' hand in calling the T, the real blame falls on the AD/Head Coach of the home team for not getting the waiver from NFHS. They all know the rule regarding illegal uniforms. If the had time to have the uniforms made and ordered, they had time to get the waiver and this would have been a non-issue. If NFHS had said "no" to the waiver, they could have made a story out of that (How embarrassing that would be for NFHS?).The responsible adults did not handle their responsibilities. They are the ones who let the kids down. Once again, the visiting AD/HC were jerks about it, but put the blame were it should be ... home HC/AD.
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Old Fri Feb 10, 2012, 01:18pm
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This story is making news all across the country. I agree with those who say the visiting AD/Head Coach were @$$es for forcing the officials' hand in calling the T, the real blame falls on the AD/Head Coach of the home team for not getting the waiver from NFHS. They all know the rule regarding illegal uniforms. If the had time to have the uniforms made and ordered, they had time to get the waiver and this would have been a non-issue. If NFHS had said "no" to the waiver, they could have made a story out of that (How embarrassing that would be for NFHS?).The responsible adults did not handle their responsibilities. They are the ones who let the kids down. Once again, the visiting AD/HC were jerks about it, but put the blame were it should be ... home HC/AD.
They would have to get an exemption from the state association rather than NFHS.
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