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Toren Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:53pm

Advice for our members
 
Recently I posted about having to remove a head Varsity coach from my JV game because he was inciting the crowd. And as he was leaving he threatened to wait in the parking lot for me. Turns out that coach did sit out the next game.

I just got an email from the assignor telling me I have been removed from lower level games for that school. This was at the school's request. At first I was a bit surprised, but felt understanding, as an assignor I'm sure she's just doing what's easiest for her. She never asked me my side of the story, although I did file a report, so she may have read it.

However, I'm starting to feel a bit upset about this, as I think more an more about it. I'm even considering just turning back all my lower level games for this assignor.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

bainsey Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:55pm

Communicate with your assignor before deciding anything. This is probably best handled via phone.

Adam Wed Jan 25, 2012 12:59pm

So the coach gets reprimanded by CHSAA, and the assigner acquiesces to the shool's demands? If I were you, I'd ask her what she thinks you could have or should have done differently.

I get that assigners up there are probably competing for schools, but this is ridiculous.

The_Rookie Wed Jan 25, 2012 01:03pm

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Originally Posted by Toren (Post 816542)
Recently I posted about having to remove a head Varsity coach from my JV game because he was inciting the crowd. And as he was leaving he threatened to wait in the parking lot for me. Turns out that coach did sit out the next game.

I just got an email from the assignor telling me I have been removed from lower level games for that school. This was at the school's request. At first I was a bit surprised, but felt understanding, as an assignor I'm sure she's just doing what's easiest for her. She never asked me my side of the story, although I did file a report, so she may have read it.

However, I'm starting to feel a bit upset about this, as I think more an more about it. I'm even considering just turning back all my lower level games for this assignor.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.

This is why some officals will not Kick a coach or player out!! Sorry, but the assignor does not have your back on this one...plus to not pick up the phone and walk you thru this and just remove the games..Not Good!

stiffler3492 Wed Jan 25, 2012 01:04pm

She might have done it for your own good. To keep you away from that school could be best for both parties. Just a thought.

Adam Wed Jan 25, 2012 01:06pm

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 816547)
She might have done it for your own good. To keep you away from that school could be best for both parties. Just a thought.

At the school's request? Any assigner worth his/her salt would have left the schedule alone; and maybe put Toren on a varsity game for that school.

Adam Wed Jan 25, 2012 01:08pm

And I wouldn't turn back any games you've accepted, but I would consider not taking any games from her in the future if you can work without her. First, however, I would call her and see if there's something she thinks you could have done differently.

If she says you should have ignored him, then I'd strongly consider not taking any more games from her (next year, perhaps).

Raymond Wed Jan 25, 2012 01:13pm

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Originally Posted by Toren (Post 816542)
...I just got an email from the assignor telling me I have been removed from lower level games for that school. ...

Meaning you can still work Varsity games at that school?

tref Wed Jan 25, 2012 01:14pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 816550)
And I wouldn't turn back any games you've accepted, but I would consider not taking any games from her in the future if you can work without her. First, however, I would call her and see if there's something she thinks you could have done differently.

If she says you should have ignored him, then I'd strongly consider not taking any more games from her (next year, perhaps).

+1

I think this is the best course of action.

Toren Wed Jan 25, 2012 01:15pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 816559)
Meaning you can still work Varsity games at that school?

This particular assignor only assigns the lower level games. The varsity games are done by a different assignor. I did not have this school on my schedule this year.

stiffler3492 Wed Jan 25, 2012 01:17pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 816549)
At the school's request? Any assigner worth his/her salt would have left the schedule alone; and maybe put Toren on a varsity game for that school.

Sure. Acquiescing to the school's request may be best. I'd like to think that our assignors have our backs, and that doesn't solely mean sticking his/her neck out for us in a tough spot. Sometimes that can be done by preventing said official a headache.

Putting myself in Toren's shoes, I'm not sure I'd want to go back to that school.

Adam Wed Jan 25, 2012 01:18pm

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Originally Posted by Toren (Post 816562)
This particular assignor only assigns the lower level games. The varsity games are done by a different assignor. I did not have this school on my schedule this year.

Then her email was nothing more than an insult, IMO. I would still follow through with the phone call, a lot of times emails can come off much differently than intended. She may have some insight you can learn from.

Adam Wed Jan 25, 2012 01:20pm

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 816563)
Sure. Acquiescing to the school's request may be best. I'd like to think that our assignors have our backs, and that doesn't solely mean sticking his/her neck out for us in a tough spot. Sometimes that can be done by preventing said official a headache.

Putting myself in Toren's shoes, I'm not sure I'd want to go back to that school.

I would. Coaches shouldn't be able to dictate their officials; because in situations like this, the coach has now instilled an atmosphere of fear. When word spreads that Toren was blackballed from the school for taking care of business, how many newer officials who need this assigner are going to actually take care of business.

tref Wed Jan 25, 2012 01:21pm

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 816563)
Putting myself in Toren's shoes, I'm not sure I'd want to go back to that school.

I'm not Toren, but it's always nice to have the option to go where we want. A certified varsity official blackballed at the lower-level... C'MON MAN!!

Bad Zebra Wed Jan 25, 2012 01:22pm

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Originally Posted by Toren (Post 816542)
...I just got an email from the assignor telling me I have been removed from lower level games for that school. This was at the school's request...

I wouldn't loose too much sleep over it. In may cases, the school has the right to scratch an official (or multiple) for a multitude of reasons. Don't let that school affect your ability to work other games in that conference. Chances are you'll just get other assignments in place of that school. Their loss! Do you really need that headache again anyway?


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