POI 2003-2004

[mick]

http://www.nfhs.org/Sports/basketball_emphasis.htm

[ChuckElias]

Ho-hum. Anybody find any of that interesting?

No reflection on mick for posting it; I'm glad somebody did. But it's essentially exactly the same as last year.

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
Ho-hum. Anybody find any of that interesting?

Chuck, your apathy is showing.

I was interested to read what they had to say about TO Administration and some of the points made on Rough play. Actually, in one way it's good that new problems aren't arising but shows we still have work to do in addressing some of the old ones.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Chuck, your apathy is showing.

Jeez, sorry. I'll pull my pants up above my hips!

I was interested to read what they had to say about TO Administration and some of the points made on Rough play.

But it was exactly the same as last year. The only changes were the shaded parts, about playing to the crowd and continued diligence during pre-game warmups.

Chuck

[BktBallRef]

Originally posted by ChuckElias
But it was exactly the same as last year.

Actually, the lists are different.

2003-2004:

2. Rough Play – Guidelines For Teaching And Officiating
A. Handchecking
B. Screening
C. Post Play
D. Rebounding
E. Block/Charge
F. Officiating Points

2002-2003:

4. Rough Play
A. Hands off
B. Post-play
C. Screens
D. Protecting the Shooter
E. Excess Swinging of Arm(s)/Elbow(s)

Better pull those pants a little higher.

[ChuckElias]

Originally posted by BktBallRef
Actually, the lists are different.

LOL, oops! Sorry. It wasn't apathy, it was laziness. I read:

1. Sporting Behavior (Repeated from 2002-03, except shaded area)

and thought the parenthetical part applied to the entire POE list. Guess I'll "look again".

Chuck

[Edited by ChuckElias on May 16th, 2003 at 11:38 AM]

[DrC.]

Isn't #3 Free Throw Admin New ???

Max of 4 defense and 2 offense. Noone in the 4th spots at all ???

[ChuckElias]

From the title of this thread, I was hoping that the NF had adopted the NCAA procedure for administering technical fouls. Darn.

[wizard]

D. Rebounding. This is the one that I found interesting.


To obtain or maintain a legal rebounding position a player may not:
1.Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Displace, charge or push an opponent.
2.Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Extend shoulders, hips, knees or extend the arms or elbows fully or partially in a position other than vertical, so that the opponentÂ’s freedom of movement is hindered when contact with the arms or elbows occurs.
3.Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Bend his or her body in an abnormal position to hold or displace an opponent.


Doesn't boxing out violate some or all of these points?

[fref]

Can anyone tell me what the definition of Hooking is and where it is shown as a violation in the NF rules? I see it is covered under hand checking in the "point of emphasis."

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by fref
Can anyone tell me what the definition of Hooking is and where it is shown as a violation in the NF rules? I see it is covered under hand checking in the "point of emphasis."

In most areas, hooking is only illegal if you pay for it.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally posted by Mark Padgett

In most areas, hooking is only illegal if you pay for it.

Must work differently in your area. In my area, the hooker GETS paid.

[bob jenkins]

Originally posted by wizard
D. Rebounding. This is the one that I found interesting.


To obtain or maintain a legal rebounding position a player may not:
1.Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Displace, charge or push an opponent.
2.Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Extend shoulders, hips, knees or extend the arms or elbows fully or partially in a position other than vertical, so that the opponentÂ’s freedom of movement is hindered when contact with the arms or elbows occurs.
3.Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â*Â* Bend his or her body in an abnormal position to hold or displace an opponent.


Doesn't boxing out violate some or all of these points?

Not if done properly.

THe way some coaches teach it, yes. And that's part of the reason we get those strange looks when we call the fouls.

[Back In The Saddle]

Originally posted by bob jenkins


Not if done properly.

THe way some coaches teach it, yes. And that's part of the reason we get those strange looks when we call the fouls.

Grrrr, called one of these just this week. Guy is "boxing out" and sends his opponent flying across the key, landing on his keyster. When I called the foul he starts gesturing wildly and says to me, "IT'S CALLED BOXING OUT!" He probably didn't even know what I meant when I replied, "no, it's called displacement."

[Mark Padgett]

Originally posted by Back In The Saddle

Must work differently in your area. In my area, the hooker GETS paid.

A guy sent his girlfriend out to be a hooker. She came back after the first night. He asked her how much money she made. She told him she made $150.25.

"One hundred fifty dollars and twenty-five cents???, he said. "Who gave you a quarter?"

She replied, "Everybody".