Except he is bench personnel. Bench personnel include "all individuals who are . . . affiliated with a team." 4-34-2

Anyone being permitted by the team to participate in the warm-up is clearly affiliated with the team.

Considering the practice of having players play at both levels is not exactly rare, I'm not sure how you get around the T by rule as he very well could be a JV player as well.

Affiliated with the school? Certainly. With the TEAM? Not necessarily. A varsity player is on a different team than the JV team (swingers notwithstanding). If he's not in the book, and he's not an assistant coach, trainer, or manager, he's really just a fan.

Again, this is a player technical foul, not a team one. You must have someone to whack, and if he's not involved in that game, the only reason for a team T would be to stretch 2-8-1.

I'd give the ball back to her and have her do it again!!! :D :D :p

I think that this is a bad rule. First what's wrong with dunking in warm ups? They can dunk during the game and as long as they don't hang onto the rim, the risk of damaging the rim is low. Secondly, why should the coach have to sit after getting a technical? Never understood the logic there?

If he's out shooting layups with them, he's affiliated. What if he sits on the bench with them and tells you that you suck? You gonna allow that?

THEN he's bench personnel.

Okay then. It's halftime of the JV game. Both JV teams go into their respective locker rooms, and the varisty teams take the court to shoot around. One dunks. Whack?

The rule against dunking in warmups is mainly because of potential injuries from what I've been told. That and possible damage to equipment, such as the baskets.

The coach being seatbelted is a high school thing and is done to discourage unsporting behavior. If a coach knows he will have to sit the rest of a game, he is more likely to keep his team and himself under control. It obviously is not always a deterrent, but it helps.

No, because he's not out their participating in a team activity. When a team allows an individual to join their warm up, he becomes affiliated with their team. If team is in the locker room, unless he had been sitting on the bench during the first half, I don't see an affiliation there.

Okay, here's the crux, and it's probably a Roman thing.

Last month, we received instruction that, when a team is warming up, ONLY team members can be on the floor. If they're going to the locker room, it's a different story, but once they come out, it's only about the team. Everyone else is to be sent off.

So, if they're not part of the team, then I can't extend bench personnel to them. It's either 2-8-1 or nothing (most likely the latter), as far as I can see.

This does indeed sound like a local thing. So you are not to permit coaches or managers to be on the floor during warm ups? I occasionally have a coach go onto the floor and not uncommonly have student managers assisting warm ups.

According to the state of Colorado's CHSAA, yes, unfortunately.:rolleyes:

My mistake. I meant bench personnel, not team members.

Fair enough. I think this though does become a bit of a circular definition as anyone the team permits on the court during warm ups is therefore affiliated with the team and thus bench personnel.

In practice, if it's obvious that he's a non-dressed varsity player and the coach is telling me he shouldn't have been out there, I'm not going to assess the T.

Really? From Tom?

Heh, just reading the new OHSAA Rebounder's Report which is the newsletter put out by the Ohio Assistant Commissioner for Basketball Jerry Snodgrass.

Emphasis in the original.