Ref the defense - then what?

[Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.]

Originally Posted by Rufus

Had a situation during a private school VB contest last night, two-man crew. A1 is driving on a fast break, B2 is ahead of A1 and turns to try and establish LGP. My focus shifts to him because I want to know when/if he establishes.

A1 jumps for a try just below the free throw line extended and plows into B2. Because I was concentrating on B2 I knew he hadn't established LGP before A1 got airborne on the try so I called a block.

Here's the question - A1's take off was high in the key. B2 attempted to establish LGP low in the post. There's quite a bit of distance between them so, if I'm refereeing the defense, what can/should you do to be certain of what A1 did, and when, in terms of beginning the habitual shooting motion? I knew/saw in this case that A1 was airborne before B2 got established, but in thinking about it afterward I realized it was more happenstance than conscious thought/awareness and that kind of bugged me.

On a related note I'm starting to understand/appreciate the no-charge arcs in the NBA/NCAA.

1) If A1 is in the air then, unless he passes off, you can consider him having his started his Act of Shooting.

2) I won't comment on the NBA/WNBA arc but with regards to the NCAA arc, it is bunch of hooey adopted by a group of people who are ingnorant of why the guarding rules were written in the 1950's and those reasons still apply to basketball the way it is played today.

MTD, Sr.

[tref]

Originally Posted by Mark T. DeNucci, Sr.

1) If A1 is in the air then, unless he passes off, you can consider him having his started his Act of Shooting.

2) I won't comment on the NBA/WNBA arc but with regards to the NCAA arc, it is bunch of hooey adopted by a group of people who are ingnorant of why the guarding rules were written in the 1950's and those reasons still apply to basketball the way it is played today.

MTD, Sr.

1. The act of shooting begins prior to A1 being in the air... give the kids FTs.

2. So you're saying the speed, skill, athleticism & the way game is played today still relates to the 50s??

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

1. The act of shooting begins prior to A1 being in the air... give the kids FTs.

2. So you're saying the speed, skill, athleticism & the way game is played today still relates to the 50s??

No, he says the thought process behind the rules still applies.