thanks guys, this is part of the reason I frequent this board.

Ditto for me. I have been questioning some b/c calls when I watch college games on TV. What I am taking from this is, as long as the offensive player has not yet become airborne, it's up to him to avoid any contact if the defensive player has gained LGP. The ones that I have seen that I questioned were the ones where the defender has gained LGP and then when he sees the offensive player may be able to avoid him, he leans in that direction causing the contact, and subsequently still gets the charge call. He may not move his feet, but his upper body absorbs the contact since he leaned that way. The offensive player does his best to avoid the defender but if he is not yet airborne, I am hearing it's still a player control foul. Am I correct on that? This discussion is great by the way.

How is the OP video any different than this one?:

Verticality Duke v. Ohio State - YouTube

Does this Duke player not have LGP as we have define throughout this whole thread.?

On this play it's possible the foul was for B1 bringing his arms down into A1.

The arms came down -- the player is no longer vertical so he is no longer in legal guarding position.

Totally agree with this assessment of the play. Plumlee played great defense until he brought his arms down and caused the contact.

I never thought the foul was for anything else.

Peace

fair enough I guess, but I'd like to see you get a shoulder in your chest and NOT bring your arms down...

Is that what you see? I see the defender initiating contact with his entire upper body prior to the shot. Jumps right into him.

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