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[KJUmp]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Remember that the table crew are also officials and may assist with officiating the game. Check with them, as they often know who committed the foul before you report it. As you say, sometimes a person simply saying "42" will jog your memory, at which point you can say, "right! 42 white!"

Regarding getting assistance from the table crew...
Under Fed rules are we allowed go the table to confirm that a shot went in? I couldn't find that specific situation covered in rule book or case book.

I messed up last week and had no idea if the ball went in when P asked me if the shot was good after he called a foul on a drive to the hoop in a BJV. Bad officiating on my part.

[mbyron]

Originally Posted by KJUmp

Regarding getting assistance from the table crew...
Under Fed rules are we allowed go the table to confirm that a shot went in? I couldn't find that specific situation covered in rule book or case book.

I messed up last week and had no idea if the ball went in when P asked me if the shot was good after he called a foul on a drive to the hoop in a BJV. Bad officiating on my part.

Yes. I had to do that a couple weeks ago: called a foul as lead, and neither C nor T could tell me if the shot was good. It was a train wreck under the basket, but one of them should have known.

[billyu2]

Originally Posted by mbyron

Yes. I had to do that a couple weeks ago: called a foul as lead, and neither C nor T could tell me if the shot was good. It was a train wreck under the basket, but one of them should have known.

I agree. There's another situation in the Casebook ( 5.10.1 D) that says the timer and scorer can be used to gain specific information. I think it would be safe to say it could be done in other situations as well.

[Adam]

I did it yesterday, and the table saved me. I started reporting the color and number of the shooter rather than the fouler, then turned around to the players knowing what I had done.

Table: "Blue 33."
Me: "Yes, thank you, Blue 33."

I then sheepishly took my position opposite the table.

[Rob1968]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I did it yesterday, and the table saved me. I started reporting the color and number of the shooter rather than the fouler, then turned around to the players knowing what I had done.

Table: "Blue 33."
Me: "Yes, thank you, Blue 33."

I then sheepishly took my position opposite the table.

I reported a foul on 34, the other night. The scorekeeper is an ex-official, and as I turned away, he said, "We don't have a 34 on the floor." I realized it was on 43, and corrected it, and told him, "It's just my dislexia coming out . . . again!"

[rockyroad]

As others have said, state the color and number of the player who fouled (and what they did) at the spot of the foul. That will help you and your partners know what is going on...also, I never say the number of the shooter because then I will almost certainly confuse myself (it doesn't take much to do that). I simply point at the shooter and say "Shooter's right there."

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

I never say the number of the shooter because then I will almost certainly confuse myself (it doesn't take much to do that). I simply point at the shooter and say "Shooter's right there."

I have a twin.

[ddn]

Originally Posted by rockyroad

As others have said, state the color and number of the player who fouled (and what they did) at the spot of the foul. That will help you and your partners know what is going on...also, I never say the number of the shooter because then I will almost certainly confuse myself (it doesn't take much to do that). I simply point at the shooter and say "Shooter's right there."

Did this last night ("shooter is right there" to partner instead of giving shooter's number) and I it worked great.

Thanks again everyone.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Snaqwells

I did it yesterday, and the table saved me. I started reporting the color and number of the shooter rather than the fouler.

I've tried, many times, but I can't remember both numbers. When I've tried in the past, I've often mixed them up when reporting to the table. I will know what my shooter looks like, red hair, glasses, etc., but I no longer bother to identify his, or her, number. If there are two "shooters" in the area of the foul, I will physically point out the shooter to my partner. I tell my partner this in every pregame. It's just something that I can't do, just like some people can't both walk, and chew gum.

[Camron Rust]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

I've tried, many times, but I can't remember both numbers. When I've tried in the past, I've often mixed them up when reporting to the table. I will know what my shooter looks like, red hair, glasses, etc., but I no longer bother to identify his, or her, number. If there are two "shooters" in the area of the foul, I will physically point out the shooter to my partner. I tell my partner this in every pregame. It's just something that I can't do, just like some people can't both walk, and chew gum.

What I try to do is not remember the "numbers" but a statement....

32 fouled 12.

Seems easier than remembering to "numbers" and where they go. In the end, it is the same info, but the way you think about it can make all the difference in how easy it is to remember.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by Camron Rust

What I try to do is not remember the "numbers" but a statement. 32 fouled 12. Seems easier than remembering to "numbers" and where they go. In the end, it is the same info, but the way you think about it can make all the difference in how easy it is to remember.

Tried it. Still didn't work. I guess that my brain isn't set up for multitasking.

I cringe during those rare times when I call a double foul. I'm thinking "Blue 22, White 33" all the way to the table, afraid that I'll end up reporting "Blue 33, White 22". It's just something that is not properly hardwired into my brain.

I'm on way way to the store to buy a pack of gum. On the way back I'm going to try to chew the gum, and walk, at the same time. Wish me luck.