"That's a foul!"

JugglingReferee · #1 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 11, 2012, 10:06pm

WHACK.

That quote came from the same kid, while on the bench, who only slightly earlier said, "They're beating us by 50 ref. C'mon and lighten up on the calls a bit".

The other team had their 8th-12th players in and were playing nearly equal to this kid's team.

As soon as I reported the T, the coach went over and had a talk with him.

55 seconds later, the game ended.

Not much of an interesting story, but in my woods, a player talking back to an official is rare - I get maaaaybe 2 T'able situations a year with lip from a player.

bainsey · #2 (**permalink**) Wed Jan 11, 2012, 11:42pm

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

"They're beating us by 50 ref. C'mon and lighten up on the calls a bit".

Easy whack right there.

just another ref · #3 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 12, 2012, 12:24am

Similar situation last year. Junior high boys. Home is losing big, to a vastly bigger better team. Some of the dads in the top row started it. Lane! He's in the lane! He's living in the lane!!

1,2,3!!

This went on for a while, then I realized there was another voice. A kid on the bench had joined in the chant. I waited briefly until I was certain of the offender then stopped right in front of the bench and whacked him. I thought the kid was going to cry. Coach looked annoyed, not sure if it was with the kid or the call, but he said nothing.

JRutledge · #4 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 12, 2012, 01:07am

I do not see anything that on its face would be a T from me. I probably would have told the kid to "You need to play basketball and not worry about us" and then moved on. But that is me. Then again that would be tame based on what I experience in my games.

Peace

Camron Rust · #5 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 12, 2012, 03:33am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

"They're beating us by 50 ref. C'mon and lighten up on the calls a bit".

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey

Easy whack right there.

Really? At most, I'd chuckle internally on that one. I don't see anything about what he said that was unsportsmanlike.

JugglingReferee · #6 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 12, 2012, 04:59am

Quote:

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

"They're beating us by 50 ref. C'mon and lighten up on the calls a bit".

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey

Easy whack right there.

Not in my book. Not even close, actually.

This quote came with 2:00 left in the 4th. I think he wanted the game over with, and wanted less whistles to end the game quicker. Had the winning team played their non-starters for the majority of the game, it would have been a decent game.

BillyMac · #7 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 12, 2012, 07:09am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Really? At most, I'd chuckle internally on that one. I don't see anything about what he said that was unsportsmanlike.

I originally thought the same thing, but re-read JugglingReferee's post. "That's a foul!" is what got the kid whacked. If he said it loud enough, and with a certain tone, that might have gotten him whacked in my game too.

BillyMac · #8 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 12, 2012, 07:11am

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Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I think he wanted the game over with, and wanted less whistles to end the game quicker.

Hot date after the game?

bainsey · #9 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 12, 2012, 10:40am

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Originally Posted by Camron Rust

Really? At most, I'd chuckle internally on that one. I don't see anything about what he said that was unsportsmanlike.

Seriously? I can't think of a single circumstance where I'd allow a player to give an official an order.

bob jenkins · #10 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 12, 2012, 10:44am

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Originally Posted by bainsey

Seriously? I can't think of a single circumstance where I'd allow a player to give an official an order.

imo, you need to better discern what's a general complaint (that needs to be adressed) and what's an "order."

The OP reads to me like the former -- and it wouldn't get a T.

bainsey · #11 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 12, 2012, 10:58am

Thanks for your concern, Bob, but I think I can discern an imperative sentence from a declarative one. That's not very difficult. Actually, it's quite black-and-white there.

bob jenkins · #12 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 12, 2012, 11:01am

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Originally Posted by bainsey

Thanks for your concern, Bob, but I think I can discern an imperative sentence from a declarative one. .

I'm sure you can. It's also not what I said.

You're welcome.

APG · #13 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 12, 2012, 11:08am

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Originally Posted by bainsey

Easy whack right there.

Doesn't even register on the radar for me.

bainsey · #14 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 12, 2012, 11:15am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I'm sure you can. It's also not what I said.

Very well, then. Am I to understand that you believe you have to "feel" what's an order and what isn't?

rockyroad · #15 (**permalink**) Thu Jan 12, 2012, 11:20am

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Originally Posted by bainsey

Very well, then. Am I to understand that you believe you have to "feel" what's an order and what isn't?

Good grief...it's not an order. It's a 17 year old kid whining because his team is getting their butts kicked. Tell him to knock it off and move on.

Would love to hear the conversation with the Coach...

Coach: "What did he say?"

Official: "He told me to lighten up on the calls a little bit."

Coach: "You whacked him for THAT?"

Official: "Absolutely Coach. He can't order me around like that."

Hmmm...that's not going to end well at all.

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