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fullor30 Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:41am

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Originally Posted by Scuba_ref (Post 811080)
Did you have a good pre-game? I know that often helps set the tone for me.

Depends on partners......but your right, an bumbled switch,rotation screwup, new lead going long bringing in subs, failure to communicate with partners, can get you off course and might have been avoided with a decent pregame.

I've had almost 1/2 hour pregames and the "don't F&*# it up" ones.

Loudwhistle2 Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:44am

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 811065)
I remember having just a horrible half one time. But neither coach seemed to notice as I got no flak that I can remember. And talking to my partners after the game neither had any plays that stuck out to them. But I knew I sucked and that mentally I had went in the tank the 2nd half.

Just up'd my concentration level for the following game.

For me I have found that I need to be plenty early for any game I do. Last year I came in late (only 30 minutes before game time) and it upset my whole mood. Felt like I was behind the eight ball the whole time.

Adam Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:49am

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Originally Posted by Loudwhistle2 (Post 811090)
For me I have found that I need to be plenty early for any game I do. Last year I came in late (only 30 minutes before game time) and it upset my whole mood. Felt like I was behind the eight ball the whole time.

Two years ago, I had a game where I walked in at about game time (car accident on the freeway). The association president, there early for the next game, was getting dressed to replace me if need be. We had about a 30 second pregame, and I was out of sorts the whole game.

I was back in that gym last night (incidental detail), and worked with two partners who had just done the freshmen game in front of me. The R did a good job of taking a few extra minutes between games to make sure we had a decent pregame.

I've also found that being out of the car for a while, with time to get into the mindset, is helpful even if the pre-game is less than stellar.

bainsey Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:24pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 811045)
Of all the things that could cause an official to get "rattled", being the fashion police would fall way down the list, I would think.

Fair enough. It was more about having to deal with this stuff repeatedly with the same team/coach, and the indignant reply when I tried to cut that team a little slack.

Home team in green, visitors in blue. (In this state, white jerseys are only required for home varsity teams.) Both teams had at least one white undershirt. I spoke with the home coach about his lone offender, and it was taken care of without incident.

Visitors had warm-ups on during pre-game, so I didn't see the two white undershirts until a few minutes into the game. (They were sleeveless, but they were visible at the neckline. I already had to deal with this same issue with this team a few weeks ago. Rather than remove those two immediately, I thought I'd cut them a little slack, and told the visiting coach to take care of it at the end of the first quarter. The coach just gave me an indignant "whatever," twice.

"Whatever" is a pet peeve of mine. (I've said before that "whatever" is for stupid teenage girls.) I allow the kids to finish the quarter, and I get the clean version of "screw you"?! Plenty other schools understand that the undershirt's color must match that of the jersey, like it or not. (My son's coach doesn't even allow undershirts, headbands, etc.) Apparently, this coach thinks he can duck rules he deems stupid.

The fact that I allowed it to get to me and rattle my focus for the rest of the half is on me. In the grand scheme of things, this is far from major. While I didn't react overtly, I still chose poorly internally. Fashion police stuff is a PITA, but I'll likely have to deal with it again. If I don't deal with it, I'm just making it messier for the next guy.

Adam Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:26pm

So did he deal with it?

If you've had them do this before and had to deal with it then, I'd be less inclined to let them wait. Send them off and tell the coach he needs some subs.

bainsey Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:27pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 811106)
So did he deal with it?

Affirmative. The two rushed to the locker room and were back out for the second quarter.

bob jenkins Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:37pm

If I have an issue with a team, then the next time I have the team I check (or at least ask) during the pre-game.

And, it might be helpful to let your association know, so all can check / enforce. That way, the team doesn't think "it's just you."

(I'm assuming that the white neckline is enofrced in your area.)

bainsey Fri Jan 06, 2012 12:55pm

Thanks, Bob.

And yes, the neckline is enforced. I seeked clarity on this a few weeks ago.

In hindsight, I should have asked in pre-game when the R asked me if I had anything to add.

Adam Fri Jan 06, 2012 01:08pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 811114)
Thanks, Bob.

And yes, the neckline is enforced. I seeked clarity on this a few weeks ago.

In hindsight, I should have asked in pre-game when the R asked me if I had anything to add.

If you're going to do that, let your R know ahead of time.

RookieDude Fri Jan 06, 2012 02:25pm

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 811119)
If you're going to do that, let your R know ahead of time.

Snaq's...you are wise beyond your years.;)

Adam Fri Jan 06, 2012 02:31pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 811150)
Snaq's...you are wise beyond your years.;)

:D I don't care what you've been told, I'm no Yankee fan.

VaTerp Fri Jan 06, 2012 11:13pm

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Originally Posted by BadNewsRef (Post 811065)
I remember having just a horrible half one time. But neither coach seemed to notice as I got no flak that I can remember. And talking to my partners after the game neither had any plays that stuck out to them. But I knew I sucked and that mentally I had went in the tank the 2nd half.

Just up'd my concentration level for the following game.

Had a BF/BV double tonite.

Drove to the game feeling very mentally prepared and then I got a call from my boss 30 minutes before the BF tip that really ticked me off on work related issues.

Rather than let it distract me just used it to up my concentration level even more and feel like I nailed both games tonight. The V game was a 25 point blow out but both teams competed the whole game and there was about as much of a rythm and flow as possible for a game with that kind of margin.

Really feel goods about the games this evening and am thanful to this board for allowing me the opportunity for "therapy" from typing and reading some of the responses. Thanks!


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