Passed on a multiple foul

[bainsey]

JV Boys, two-man crew. I'm the L.

A-1 drives for a layup and is fouled, double whistle. I have a holding foul on B-2; my partner has a push on B-3.

I consider the multiple foul for half a second, but I insist on just going with B-2. My partner agrees (or doesn't disagree, really), and I report the foul.

It was a relatively clean game (15 fouls in total), so I didn't see the point of getting both of them, particulary since the shooter is getting two free throws either way. Thoughts?

[mplagrow]

Consult. Pick one. Move on.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bainsey

I consider the multiple foul for half a second,

Thoughts?

You considered for .5 seconds too long

[JugglingReferee]

Originally Posted by bainsey

JV Boys, two-man crew. I'm the L.

A-1 drives for a layup and is fouled, double whistle. I have a holding foul on B-2; my partner has a push on B-3.

I consider the multiple foul for half a second, but I insist on just going with B-2. My partner agrees (or doesn't disagree, really), and I report the foul.

It was a relatively clean game (15 fouls in total), so I didn't see the point of getting both of them, particulary since the shooter is getting two free throws either way. Thoughts?

I think it's ok that the "multiple foul" went through your head - it shows that you understand what a multiple is.

Now, that you didn't actually call a multiple foul is even better. Pick one and move on. If the fouls are about the same in severity, pick the first. If they're not the same in severity, pick the more severe one (ruling the other as incidental).

[APG]

Multiple wouldn't have even crossed my mind...pick one and move on.

[tref]

Originally Posted by JugglingReferee

I think it's ok that the "multiple foul" went through your head - it shows that you understand what a multiple is.

Now, that you didn't actually call a multiple foul is even better. Pick one and move on. If the fouls are about the same in severity, pick the first. If they're not the same in severity, pick the more severe one (ruling the other as incidental).

How about incorporating total player fouls into this mix?

[Adam]

Originally Posted by tref

How about incorporating total player fouls into this mix?

Now you sound like the coach who wants the wrist slap at the top of the key even though his dribbler wasn't affected by it.

[tref]

just asking

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by tref

How about incorporating total player fouls into this mix?

By that, do you mean, asking how many fouls each player has? If so, THAT'S a slippery slope.

[Adam]

Originally Posted by bainsey

By that, do you mean, asking how many fouls each player has? If so, THAT'S a slippery slope.

I think he also meant team fouls.

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tref

How about incorporating total player fouls into this mix?

How about the primary official just taking the call and moving on?

And we shouldn't even know we had different calls until we are doing our post-game (or halftime) in the locker room.

[tref]

Originally Posted by bainsey

By that, do you mean, asking how many fouls each player has? If so, THAT'S a slippery slope.

Asking? This is something one has to know, at all times!

[Raymond]

Originally Posted by tref

Asking? This is something one has to know, at all times!

I might know if a player or 2 is on their 4th foul but I'm definitely not going to know every player's foul situation.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by bainsey

By that, do you mean, asking how many fouls each player has? If so, THAT'S a slippery slope.

If the choice is between assessing the foul to (a) star player who already has 4 and (b) 8th off the bench who has 0, then some would say to choose (b).

In some situations, I agree. OTherwise, I get the first.

[tref]

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

How about the primary official just taking the call and moving on?

If thats how you want to run your ballgames. In mine the knucklehead gets the foul in multiple situations.

Originally Posted by BadNewsRef

I might know if a player or 2 is on their 4th foul but I'm definitely not going to know every player's foul situation.

I try to stay cognizant of all the quality players fouls.