Game Announcers ...

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Sometimes reads a statement about how they expect sportsmanship from all involved. Wouldn't that be ironic if he had read a similar statement prior to your game?

It's very hard to describe, but, in my opinion, it didn't quite meet the level of unsporting, or taunting, it just seemed, for lack of a better term, "out of place", in a high school basketball game.

[just another ref]

If taken to an extreme level, this, I think could conceivably fall under 2-8-1:

Penalize unsporting conduct by any player, coach, substitute, team attendant, or follower.

I agree "How could she miss both free throws?" is over the line.

[bob jenkins]

IMO, if they stick to "just the facts" (points, assists, fouls) then it's okay. If they go to play-by-play or editorializing, I tell them to stop.

[just another ref]

INO ??

I give up.

It's not ours?

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

If they go to play-by-play.

Thanks. That's the way to describe what was being announced. Play by play. Exactly. And most of the play by play was not unsporting, it just didn't seem "right" in a high school game.

Now back to the question. Is it the job of the officials, sans anything from the state interscholastic sports governing body, to stop "play by play" announcing, especially if it's not unsporting?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

Now back to the question. Is it the job of the officials, sans anything from the state interscholastic sports governing body, to stop "play by play" announcing, especially if it's not unsporting?

Yes. Even if it's not unsporting, he's a PA announcer, not a play by play guy. The potential exists an sooner or later, just like in your game, he's going to say the wrong thing. Be proactive.

I've had it happen at football games, but not in a basketball game, at least not yet.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

He's a PA announcer, not a play by play guy.

You seem to know the difference. I may have have some idea regarding the difference. But, in reality, what is the real difference? If our state interscholastic sports governing body doesn't give us any guidance here, then is this the job of the officials to police this, according to the NFHS?

"I shall not today attempt further to define the kinds of material I understand to be embraced within that shorthand description; and perhaps I could never succeed in intelligibly doing so. But I know it when I see it." (Supreme Court Justice Potter Stewart, 1964)

[amusedofficial]

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The play-by-play by game announcers seems to follow a plot development trick used in a recent spate of basketball movies -- the ones that inevitably involve some long-neglected or injured athlete overcoming insurmountable odds by taking a game deciding shot in slow motion and teaching a valuable life lesson to his/her parent/coach/teammates/concubine.

These films show a PA announcer at courtside and he advances the story of the game through play-by-play. I have long feared that real PA announcers would decided this is how things should be.

The "how can she miss" comment about a visiting player is deserving of having the announcer banished for unsporting conduct. There is no way it isn't taunting by someone under the authority of the home site manager, so it becomes a forfeit issue if it continues.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

i do not, however, think this calls for advice from experts on crowd management and the ways of the table.

+1

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

I do not, however, think this calls for advice from experts on crowd management and the ways of the table.

C'mon. This is a softball toss for chseagle to knock out of the park.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

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It's not a myth. It's real. It happened to me. Twice. Banned for life. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

[grunewar]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

It's not a myth. It's real. It happened to me. Twice. Banned for life. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

+1, a little while back..... I was just a young poster at the time.

Ok, maybe not so young.

[BillyMac]

Originally Posted by amusedofficial

The play-by-play by game announcers seems to follow a plot development trick used in a recent spate of basketball movies, the ones that inevitably involve some long-neglected or injured athlete overcoming insurmountable odds by taking a game deciding shot in slow motion and teaching a valuable life lesson to his/her parent/coach/teammates/concubine. These films show a PA announcer at courtside and he advances the story of the game through play-by-play. I have long feared that real PA announcers would decided this is how things should be.

You've hit the nail right on the head. I've noticed this on television shows, also. At the time, I thought that it was funny, the writers not knowing what is was really like in a real high school basketball game. It's this, as well as ESPN's "And One" games, that will eventually lead us to more "play by play" announcers for high school games. It's only going to get worse, if nobody does anything about it.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

It's only going to get worse, if nobody does anything about it.

So do something about it. Use 2-3 if you need to.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by BillyMac

And most of the play by play was not unsporting...

Certainly not, if you're a play-by-play or color analyst. Players don't hear such things until they see/hear a recording after the game.

However, when you're a PA announcer, making such comments to a crowd could easily distract a player, and that's indeed unsporting, IMO. That's not the role of the PA announcer. From me, I'd tell game management "not again" once. After this, citing 2-8-1, removal and/or a T is justified, I say.