Last Second Debacle?

[Toren]

If either one of you had a closely guarded count started, you could use that as definite knowledge in your second scenario. Meaning if your partner had blown his whistle, you could have run off that time and proceeded with POI.

However, with so much to look at and it being so quick, doesn't sound like there was any count started.

So you did it properly. Sometimes things just happen

[Lotto]

In a case like this, if I'm T (responsible for the last second shot), I'm counting off in my head so that if I take a peak at the clock and notice that it didn't start, I have definite knowledge. Counting like that has served me well on multiple occasions...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Lotto

In a case like this, if I'm T (responsible for the last second shot), I'm counting off in my head so that if I take a peak at the clock and notice that it didn't start, I have definite knowledge. Counting like that has served me well on multiple occasions...

+1.

On this play, the L should've taken a look at the clock once the ball was inbounded to the T's primary, too.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

+1.

On this play, the L should've taken a look at the clock once the ball was inbounded to the T's primary, too.

Okay, so let's talk about how this works, exactly.

Let's say I'm L and my T is inbounding. 3 seconds on the clock. I see the T chop, and I look and the clock doesn't start.....now what do I do?

Start counting in my head? What happens when I reach zero in my head? Do I blow my whistle and call the play dead? What if the ball is in the air on a shot when my self count reaches zero?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Okay, so let's talk about how this works, exactly.

Let's say I'm L and my T is inbounding. 3 seconds on the clock. I see the T chop, and I look and the clock doesn't start.....now what do I do?


Start counting in my head? What happens when I reach zero in my head? Do I blow my whistle and call the play dead? What if the ball is in the air on a shot when my self count reaches zero?

You kill the play once you see the clock didn't start and start over.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

You kill the play once you see the clock didn't start and start over.

Even if the ball is in the air on a try and it goes in? Cancel the basket?

[Tio]

No... you kill the play immediately after the ball is inbounded before the team can shoot. If you do not recognize the clock is stuck until a player is in the shooting motion, I would withhold the whistle.

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Even if the ball is in the air on a try and it goes in? Cancel the basket?

No. I would think that you would know that if the shot is in the air when you blow the whistle, you do not cancel the basket.

You asked "Let's say I'm L and my T is inbounding. 3 seconds on the clock. I see the T chop, and I look and the clock doesn't start.....now what do I do?"

I answered, "You kill the play once you see the clock didn't start and start over."

[refiator]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Okay, so let's talk about how this works, exactly.

Let's say I'm L and my T is inbounding. 3 seconds on the clock. I see the T chop, and I look and the clock doesn't start.....now what do I do?

Start counting in my head? What happens when I reach zero in my head? Do I blow my whistle and call the play dead? What if the ball is in the air on a shot when my self count reaches zero?

At .3. I hold my whistle. Blowing the play dead is a moot point. If the ball is caught, blow your whistle then and end the game. If it is tipped/tapped, the games ends on the made or missed tip/tap.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by refiator

At .3. I hold my whistle. Blowing the play dead is a moot point. If the ball is caught, blow your whistle then and end the game. If it is tipped/tapped, the games ends on the made or missed tip/tap.

I'mm 99% certain that the current play starts with three seconds, not 3/10 second.

[refiator]

Originally Posted by bob jenkins

I'mm 99% certain that the current play starts with three seconds, not 3/10 second.

I'm 100% sure. I mistook the period as a decimal......Thanks for giving me a 1% benefit of the doubt