Last Second Debacle?

[SCalScoreKeeper]

Since neither you,your partner,nor the clock operator have definite knowledge of how late the clock started after first contact then you go with what you know-in this case that means overtime.For part 2 you would resume at POI but with no time off since nobody has an idea of how much time elapsed.

[bainsey]

Originally Posted by SCalScoreKeeper

For part 2 you would resume at POI but with no time off since nobody has an idea of how much time elapsed.

Let's say the shot is in the air, but you noticed the clock never started. If you were to blow the play dead, would the POI force you to go to the arrow (no team control), or is there any way we can rule the POI to be at the initial throw-in at 5.3 seconds? Or, would it be better to hold the whistle until someone controls the rebound?

[Toren]

Originally Posted by bainsey

Let's say the shot is in the air, but you noticed the clock never started. If you were to blow the play dead, would the POI force you to go to the arrow (no team control), or is there any way we can rule the POI to be at the initial throw-in at 5.3 seconds? Or, would it be better to hold the whistle until someone controls the rebound?

Since the shot missed the POI is the AP arrow. Had the shot gone in the POI would be end line throw in. There was another thread where we hit this topic pretty hard, don't recall off hand which one though.

[Tio]

If there is any learning from this it is to pregame the end of game clock situation. One of you needed to have the clock in this situation - I don't know how you guys can still work 2-man in Oregon. Most likely the lead as it sounds like you as trail had the ball.

Since you didn't have definite knowledge as to the time that elapsed before the clock was started, there is nothing you can do.

[Toren]

If either one of you had a closely guarded count started, you could use that as definite knowledge in your second scenario. Meaning if your partner had blown his whistle, you could have run off that time and proceeded with POI.

However, with so much to look at and it being so quick, doesn't sound like there was any count started.

So you did it properly. Sometimes things just happen

[Lotto]

In a case like this, if I'm T (responsible for the last second shot), I'm counting off in my head so that if I take a peak at the clock and notice that it didn't start, I have definite knowledge. Counting like that has served me well on multiple occasions...

[Rich]

Originally Posted by Lotto

In a case like this, if I'm T (responsible for the last second shot), I'm counting off in my head so that if I take a peak at the clock and notice that it didn't start, I have definite knowledge. Counting like that has served me well on multiple occasions...

+1.

On this play, the L should've taken a look at the clock once the ball was inbounded to the T's primary, too.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by RichMSN

+1.

On this play, the L should've taken a look at the clock once the ball was inbounded to the T's primary, too.

Okay, so let's talk about how this works, exactly.

Let's say I'm L and my T is inbounding. 3 seconds on the clock. I see the T chop, and I look and the clock doesn't start.....now what do I do?

Start counting in my head? What happens when I reach zero in my head? Do I blow my whistle and call the play dead? What if the ball is in the air on a shot when my self count reaches zero?

[BktBallRef]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Okay, so let's talk about how this works, exactly.

Let's say I'm L and my T is inbounding. 3 seconds on the clock. I see the T chop, and I look and the clock doesn't start.....now what do I do?


Start counting in my head? What happens when I reach zero in my head? Do I blow my whistle and call the play dead? What if the ball is in the air on a shot when my self count reaches zero?

You kill the play once you see the clock didn't start and start over.

[fiasco]

Originally Posted by BktBallRef

You kill the play once you see the clock didn't start and start over.

Even if the ball is in the air on a try and it goes in? Cancel the basket?

[refiator]

Originally Posted by fiasco

Okay, so let's talk about how this works, exactly.

Let's say I'm L and my T is inbounding. 3 seconds on the clock. I see the T chop, and I look and the clock doesn't start.....now what do I do?

Start counting in my head? What happens when I reach zero in my head? Do I blow my whistle and call the play dead? What if the ball is in the air on a shot when my self count reaches zero?

At .3. I hold my whistle. Blowing the play dead is a moot point. If the ball is caught, blow your whistle then and end the game. If it is tipped/tapped, the games ends on the made or missed tip/tap.

[bob jenkins]

Originally Posted by refiator

At .3. I hold my whistle. Blowing the play dead is a moot point. If the ball is caught, blow your whistle then and end the game. If it is tipped/tapped, the games ends on the made or missed tip/tap.

I'mm 99% certain that the current play starts with three seconds, not 3/10 second.