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BillyMac Fri Dec 30, 2011 01:36pm

Before The Possession Arrow ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Freddy (Post 809004)
And if they are on the circle, they can move away from it if they want.

Back in the "olden days" when I was a coach, I used this to get quite a few open layups. That was back when we had lots, and lots, of jump balls, and lots, and lots, of jump ball plays.

Sharpshooternes Sat Jan 14, 2012 06:41am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 808976)
Yes, it's a myth, and I've seen officials do it, too. I wonder where this crap gets started.

Canada Eh.

Adam Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:33am

Had a partner this week tell a player off the circle that she couldn't be directly behind (6-7 feet) a player on the circle.

dsqrddgd909 Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:14pm

"6-3 ART. 2

When the official is ready and until the ball is tossed, nonjumpers shall not:

a. Move onto the center restraining circle.

b. Change position around the center restraining circle."

How would one judge this? I guess I'm having problems understanding "move onto" and "change position".

Is that more than a step?

BillyMac Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:24pm

Not Sure, Need Cooberation ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dsqrddgd909 (Post 813296)
Is that more than a step?

Aren't the "unmarked" spaces on the circle assumed to be three feet wide, and three feet deep, like the marked spaces on the lane lines?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Sat Jan 14, 2012 08:05pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 813300)
Aren't the "unmarked" spaces on the circle assumed to be three feet wide, and three feet deep, like the marked spaces on the lane lines?


Billy:

You are correct oh "Great One'.

MTD, Sr.

Adam Sat Jan 14, 2012 09:09pm

Where is it written?

SNIPERBBB Sat Jan 14, 2012 09:14pm

6.3.2 SITUATION:

The referee is ready to toss the ball to start the game. (a) A1 who was on the center restraining circle backs off; (b) B1 moves onto the *restraining circle into an unoccupied spot; (c) B2 moves off the circle and goes behind A2 and is within 3 feet of the circle; or (d) B3 moves off the circle about 5 feet and moves around behind A3 and A4 who are occupying spaces on the *circle.

RULING: Legal in (a) and (d), but a violation in both (b) and (c). Moving off the restraining circle in (a), and around the circle when more than 3 feet away as in (d), is permissible. It is a violation to move onto the circle as in (b), until the ball leaves the official's hand, or into an occupied space as in (c), until the ball is touched. The violation by B results in a throw-in for Team A. (4-3-1, 4-3-2, 4-3-3)

bob jenkins Sat Jan 14, 2012 09:54pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 813413)
Where is it written?

You mean besides 1-3-1?

Adam Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:04pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 813419)
You mean besides 1-3-1?

Uh yeah.

dsqrddgd909 Sat Jan 14, 2012 10:12pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 813419)
You mean besides 1-3-1?

Bob, Thanks. Forgot to look there. :o

BillyMac Sun Jan 15, 2012 12:05pm

I Can't Remember The Last Time I Read Rule 1 ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 813419)
You mean besides 1-3-1?

A restraining circle shall be drawn at the center of the court with a
radius of 6 feet measured to the outside edge. The edge of the circle shall be
designated with a minimum of a ¼-inch-wide single line but no wider than 2
inches. See Table 1-1, No. 3 if the use of contrasting colored-floor areas instead
of a line is desirable. Spaces for nonjumpers around the center circle are 36
inches deep.

Where does it say that the spaces are three feet wide?

BillyMac Mon Jan 16, 2012 05:54pm

Is This Microphone Workng ???
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 813553)
Where does it say that the spaces are three feet wide?

Does it say it anywhere? Is it one of those myths?

Mark T. DeNucci, Sr. Tue Jan 17, 2012 10:23am

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 813969)
Does it say it anywhere? Is it one of those myths?


Billy:

I am not going to climb up into the attic right now, but the "myth" comes from the fact that the marked free throw lane spaces are three feet wide and the width of the throw-in space is also three feet. Realisticly (Did I spell that correctly?) when players line up next to each other, they have defined their spaces around the Center Circle. And therefore there are approximately 12.6 spaces around the Center Circle.

MTD, Sr.

Sharpshooternes Wed Jan 18, 2012 12:36am

Is it also true that if A1 and A2 are right next to each other around the circle B1 can request the space between them?

Along those lines, what about an inbounds play from endline where the other four players are stacked in a line down the free throw line. Can the defense request to be in between them?


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