Pinstripes

stiffler3492 · #1 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 27, 2011, 11:18am

Following a prestigious local holiday tournament on Twitter this morning...

The reporter tweets that this particular school has pinstripes on their jerseys, and that they have a waiver for them from the IHSA. He also said that the officials assessed a technical foul anyway for the illegal uniforms.

If they have a waiver, I thought we were supposed to leave the situation alone?

bob jenkins · #2 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 27, 2011, 11:36am

Go to the IHSA web-site, officials center, login and read the latest (you should be soing this at least once per week).

No schools have a waiver anymore. The pinstripes are illegal. The officials are correct (assuming this was a Varsity tournament).

stiffler3492 · #3 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 27, 2011, 11:42am

Listening to the broadcast...they said only one free throw was shot.

Freddy · #4 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 27, 2011, 11:45am

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492

. . . pinstripes on their jerseys . . .

Was the tourney held inside the Joliet State Penitentary?
Oh wait, the stripes would be somewhat thicker then.

bob jenkins · #5 (**permalink**) Tue Dec 27, 2011, 11:48am

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492

Listening to the broadcast...they said only one free throw was shot.

Then either the officials or the broadcaster were wrong (or there was something really weird like a violation on one of the attempts)

berserkBBK · #6 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 28, 2011, 12:07am

Hate to talk about uniforms again but since you asked...
Uniform rules changes by the IHSA was made by changing 3 things that were common problems with uniforms. If uniforms did not meet the new criteria they were deemed illegal. Waivers are now not accepted by the IHSA Uniform Police.

JRutledge · #7 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 28, 2011, 08:37pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Then either the officials or the broadcaster were wrong (or there was something really weird like a violation on one of the attempts)

And it is not out of the question one or both could be totally wrong.

I was kind of involved in the situation with the pinstripes as the official that noticed it called me for advice for what to do. He contacted many parties and called me to report what he was told. Then I called the tournament director to let him know they might have a problem. I really do not understand why this is such a big deal, but those are the rules and I guess they must be followed as we have nothing else important to do.

Peace

bob jenkins · #8 (**permalink**) Wed Dec 28, 2011, 09:51pm

Heard of another situation involving pinstripes today. The FT shooter bounced the first one about halfway to the basket, and stepped over the line on the second. The other coach "didn't want to win that way." He ended up losing by 1 point.

stiffler3492 · #9 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:08am

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins

Heard of another situation involving pinstripes today. The FT shooter bounced the first one about halfway to the basket, and stepped over the line on the second. The other coach "didn't want to win that way." He ended up losing by 1 point.

Probably same tournament, same school.

stiffler3492 · #10 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:10am

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Originally Posted by JRutledge

And it is not out of the question one or both could be totally wrong.

I was kind of involved in the situation with the pinstripes as the official that noticed it called me for advice for what to do. He contacted many parties and called me to report what he was told. Then I called the tournament director to let him know they might have a problem. I really do not understand why this is such a big deal, but those are the rules and I guess they must be followed as we have nothing else important to do.

Peace

Do you get the sense that guys just don't know what they're supposed to do? With how many emails we've gotten, it's hard to keep things straight. I know the latest email said that nobody needed waivers anymore, and that we should enforce the rules with the new changes, but man I'd be confused and I wouldn't want to do the wrong thing, so I don't blame your guy for calling around.

EDIT: By not knowing what they're supposed to do, I don't mean that they don't know the rules.

Sco53 · #11 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:10am

Morgan Park- Hinsdale Central? Pic of uniform was in SunTimes Prep report this morning.

stiffler3492 · #12 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:15am

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Originally Posted by Sco53

Morgan Park- Hinsdale Central? Pic of uniform was in SunTimes Prep report this morning.

That was the game yesterday (hence the picture in the paper this morning), and yes. I heard that Hinsdale missed the free throw(s) on purpose as well.

Rich · #13 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:46am

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492

That was the game yesterday (hence the picture in the paper this morning), and yes. I heard that Hinsdale missed the free throw(s) on purpose as well.

Good for them. Maybe if every team does this, it will send a message to the IHSA about how stupid this all is.

Adam · #14 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 29, 2011, 12:49am

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Originally Posted by RichMSN

Good for them. Maybe if every team does this, it will send a message to the IHSA about how stupid this all is.

I have to admit I don't get why so many schools in Illinois weren't in compliance.

berserkBBK · #15 (**permalink**) Thu Dec 29, 2011, 01:08am

Proviso West 51st Annual Holiday Tournament. Game 1. Morgan Park vs Hinsdale Central Varsity Basketball game

You can see the illegal uniforms.
5 minutes: Both free throws were given and both were intentionally missed.
Like JRut says the state wants us to just give the T and have the coach take a seat.

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