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Old Wed Dec 21, 2011, 08:09pm
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I think you're full of beans! Refs have plenty to do during the game and the last thing I'm going to do is try and keep track of the score keeper's stats. Most of the CE situations that I've been around for were the score keepers fault. I've had 2 CE's this year and both were the scorekeepers fault.
What am I full of beans about? I never said you should keep track of every single player foul...as a matter of fact, I haven't said what anyone else should do.

Refs have plenty to do, agreed. But if you're going to point the finger solely at the scorekeeper and absolve yourself of any responsibility than so be it. I for one, will not.
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Old Wed Dec 21, 2011, 08:32pm
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[QUOTE=Toren;807187]What am I full of beans about?

This: "Correctable errors are errors caused by officials. These are our errors."

Officials rely on the scorekeeper to provide accurate stats. I make decisions based on what they tell me. If I'm told a team has committed 7 fouls in the first half, then I start administering free throws in the appropriate situation. I'm not going over to the book at that point and physically count the 7 fouls myself to make sure the score keeper can count. You have to trust them with a lot of important information: time outs, foul count, player numbers, subsitutions etc. Most CE's are not caused by the officials, the error begins with a mistake made by the scorer which leads the official down the wrong road. I have definitely made some mistakes that weren't related to the scorekeeper, believe me I can foul things up by myself!
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Old Wed Dec 21, 2011, 09:26pm
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But if you're going to point the finger solely at the scorekeeper and absolve yourself of any responsibility than so be it. I for one, will not.
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Old Wed Dec 21, 2011, 11:17pm
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A correctable error means someone with duties outlined in Rule 2 messed up. The errors have to be rectified someway. Those ways might not seem completely fair to one team or another. To say that they were written to penalize a team that hasn't spoken up is rubbage, IMHO.
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Old Thu Dec 22, 2011, 12:31am
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There are two CE that are wholly on the officials shoulders. The other 3 can be caused be either the table or the officials.
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