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26 Year Gap Tue Dec 20, 2011 02:46pm
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chseagle Tue Dec 20, 2011 03:02pm
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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 806531)
No, it's not.
Again was using an example

just another ref Tue Dec 20, 2011 03:28pm
Here's the biggest problem I see, eagle. Most of us have been passed over in favor of someone else in in our lives, in basketball or elsewhere, some well justified, some not so much. When this happens, an e-mail to the assignor from you pointing out the shortcomings of the one who was chosen instead of you, is unlikely to help achieve the final desired result.

ga314ref Tue Dec 20, 2011 03:37pm
Others see it differently...
 
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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 806535)
I was using that as an example.

The point is that, I know the ins & outs of the new scoreboard as well as the new rules/regulations, the AD knows my qualifications, yet he chose a person with little/no experience to be Varsity Timer/Scoreboard.

I have no qualms about doing JV & C-Squad games, it's just that how the AD responded is that I may as well be a leper that he wants to keep hiden in a closet by forcing me to remain in the auxilary gym, even though I have the training & experience, as I have previously proven to him that I can handle the main gym.
...but I understand your need to vent. It sounds like you take pride in what you do, have worked at being good at it, and feels that merits some recognition, part of which would be having you work at a higher level. It may seem trivial to others, but you feel what you do is important to the game, and you're right; it is. You're part of the officiating crew, and the more competent all the members of the crew are, the less likely it is we're going to have that night from hell.

Even for officials, sometimes it's necessary to move on to where you're valued and appreciated, and will get the opportunity you're working for. I hope it works out.

BktBallRef Tue Dec 20, 2011 03:42pm
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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 806511)
Dear BktBallRef,....blah,blah,blah...lots of bull$hit.....blah,blah,blah,....more bull$hit......blah,blah,blah,....any complaints about him.
Thank fiasco, for once again pointing out nothing.

If and when I get that call from an assignor, and I'm unhappy about it, I WON'T be whining about it on an Internet discussion board.

BTW, keep in mind we're hearing ONE side of the story here.

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 806524)
How would you feel if after 4-5 years of working B/C Squad games, you were never given a chance to work A-Squad games?

There at the school, I've only done 1 Varsity game (last year due to the regular person being sick). This year the season starts out, the regular person is sick, a new person who does not know the scoreboard or the current rules/regulations is used that is not technically competent enough to do Varsity games first time out would get anyone hot under the collar.

Sure I've done Varsity level games at 3A/4A Regionals & worked the JUCO Tournament, but to be skipped over for a person that is technically not even done any lower level games as table crew, when there's qualified personnel available, is like asking a true blue rookie official (first game ever) to work a rivalry game when there's a 20 year veteran available.
Perhaps you'e not as good as you think you are.

Perhaps you overstep your boundaries and stick your nose into parts of the table administration that are not your concern.

Perhaps they were hoping you would quit or stop doing the things you were doing that made you an irritant.

Perhaps they got tired of waiting.

Perhaps there are other reasons they chose the other person over you.

In fact, I'm 100% sure of it.

chseagle Tue Dec 20, 2011 04:11pm
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Originally Posted by ga314ref (Post 806568)
...but I understand your need to vent. It sounds like you take pride in what you do, have worked at being good at it, and feels that merits some recognition, part of which would be having you work at a higher level. It may seem trivial to others, but you feel what you do is important to the game, and you're right; it is. You're part of the officiating crew, and the more competent all the members of the crew are, the less likely it is we're going to have that night from hell.

Even for officials, sometimes it's necessary to move on to where you're valued and appreciated, and will get the opportunity you're working for. I hope it works out.
The issue at hand is that I've been doing table operations in both gyms for the past couple of years with no issues & now for some unknown reason, am being pushed into working only in the auxilary gym.

The information I pass on about recommendations is to help the others get better, it's just that how can the others learn if they do not see someone applying those recommendations & experiencing first hand what is being asked. I've tried coaching/training one on one & it seems to have fallen on deaf ears as if they do not care if doing things wrong or not.

JRutledge Tue Dec 20, 2011 04:46pm
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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 806519)
I would laugh in the face of any varsity official here who wouldn't think it a slap to the face to be told by your assignor that you're only getting sub-v games from now on and would, as BktBallRef insinuated, just be hunky dory with that kind of schedule just because "the kids need good officials." I'd laugh in your face because I'd know you were lying.
You must not have been as good as you thought you were. That usually does not happen without reason. :p

Peace

chseagle Tue Dec 20, 2011 06:48pm
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Originally Posted by ga314ref (Post 806568)
...but I understand your need to vent. It sounds like you take pride in what you do, have worked at being good at it, and feels that merits some recognition, part of which would be having you work at a higher level. It may seem trivial to others, but you feel what you do is important to the game, and you're right; it is. You're part of the officiating crew, and the more competent all the members of the crew are, the less likely it is we're going to have that night from hell.

Even for officials, sometimes it's necessary to move on to where you're valued and appreciated, and will get the opportunity you're working for. I hope it works out.
One of the primary reasons why I am so upset is due to the fact, that like I have stated previously, I have doing table operations in both gyms for the past couple of years. I have been doing table operations in gym 1 during the MS.JH Boys' Games this year, & when the HS season started all of a sudden am basically pushed out of gym 1 without any explanation or asking.

The first home game (December 12th) the regular Varsity timer/scoreboard was out sick & I was not even asked if I wanted to do Varsity timer. Same thing happened again on Saturday.

The AD knew I was there, yet he acted like I didn't exsist.

BillyMac Tue Dec 20, 2011 06:59pm
It's Not Just You ..
 
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Originally Posted by grunewar (Post 806515)
I for one don't mind doing sub-V games. The only thing that stops me during the week is the early start times (Job #1 gets in the way). I like calling ball. Period. Just me.
Retirement from my day job as a chemist is eight years away. When that time comes, I hope that I'm healthy enough to work high school freshman (4:00 p.m.) and middle school games (3:30 p.m.). Those games could use good officials, and the young, and rookie, officials working them could use good mentors. I can't be working high school varsity games the rest of my life. For some reason, and the mathematics involved escapes me, the kids stay the same age as I get older. Is that fair?

26 Year Gap Tue Dec 20, 2011 07:06pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 806623)
Retirement from my day job as a chemist is eight years away. When that time comes, I hope that I'm healthy enough to work high school freshman (4:00 p.m.) and middle school games (3:30 p.m.). Those games could use good officials, and the young, and rookie, officials working them could use good mentors. I can't be working high school varsity games the rest of my life. For some reason, and the mathematics involved escapes me, the kids stay the same age as I get older. Is that fair?
You don't really want to stay the same age, do you?

kwatson Tue Dec 20, 2011 07:06pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 806623)
Retirement from my day job as a chemist is eight years away. When that time comes, I hope that I'm healthy enough to work high school freshman (4:00 p.m.) and middle school games (3:30 p.m.). Those games could use good officials, and the young, and rookie, officials working them could use good mentors. I can't be working high school varsity games the rest of my life. For some reason, and the mathematics involved escapes me, the kids stay the same age as I get older. Is that fair?
+1 - the retirement from chemist. Oh and for sure not fair :(

fiasco Tue Dec 20, 2011 07:13pm
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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 806620)

...didn't you get the memo...BBR (Tony the Tiger) knows EVERYTHING!:p
Yes I did, but I spit my gum out in it. :D

BillyMac Tue Dec 20, 2011 07:21pm
I Won't Grow Up, Not A Penny Will I Pinch ...
 
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 806627)
You don't really want to stay the same age, do you?
Hey, it works for Peter Pan, and Dorian Gray.

26 Year Gap Tue Dec 20, 2011 07:24pm
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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 806641)
Hey, it works for Peter Pan, and Dorian Gray.
You don't want to show up dressed like Peter Pan to the game site, do you? That might be one of the requirements.

BillyMac Tue Dec 20, 2011 07:32pm
I Will Never Grow A Mustache, Or A Fraction Of An Inch ....
 
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Originally Posted by 26 Year Gap (Post 806644)
You don't want to show up dressed like Peter Pan to the game site, do you? That might be one of the requirements.
Would it be alright if I wear a belt with my green tights?


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