PCF or no-call?
 

Varsity boys scrimmage. A1 drives the lane and plows into B1 who has established legal guarding position. A1 goes down in a heap. B1, built like a truck, doesn't even budge. I'm prepared to call a PCF, but hold off when B1 doesn't move an inch. If he'd been displaced at all, it was a no-brainer PCF.

So I'm torn between two contradictory guidelines in this sitch: 1) train wreck in the paint should get a whistle and 2) no displacement of the defender = no advantage = no call.

Coach asked about the no-call and I explained my position, but what say you?

I agree with most train wrecks in the paint philosophy, but in my mind, there needs to be more than one car down to meet the definition of one. And 4-19-1 supports a no-call in cases like this, IMO, regarding the player being illegally contacted not being put at a disadvantage by the actions of the other player.

Unless the contact stunned the defender so that he couldn't make a follow up play...play on unless A1 ended up traveling.

When I discuss this in my clinics, I refer to this as the Spud Webb/Shaq collision. What ya got? No matter how bad it looks, sometimes it's nothing.....what advantage was gained?

Good way to look at it.

Do your younger guys know who that is? ;)

Don't remember him but I do remember muggsey bogues.

Lol! Mugsey Bogues is the head coach at United Faith Christian Academy in Charlotte, NC. I worked his team's game last Thursday night.

Chirped for two and half quarters, until I gave him a stop sign in the 3rd and told him I had heard enough. Never heard another word. ;)

You mean there are two guards that came out of Wake Forest who have no clue on the rules?:confused:

At halftime, I chopped my hand about chest high and told my partners, "I've had Mugsey up to here." :D

Nice guy, just chirped about everything. It's his first year coaching. I explained his AD during a 4th quarter TO that when he complains about something every trip down the floor officials aren't going to listen and how he needs to pick his battles.

That's fine for NBE. But if a shot went up, I've got a foul: I don't want A to score after that contact, and I don't want anyone stepping on the kid if there's rebounding.

What does you wanting or not wanting A to score have anything to do with contact that occurs??

If A commits a borderline foul, they're not getting the benefit of the doubt and scoring.

Pardon me, but what is a "borderline foul"?