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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 11:29pm
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Difference in fouls

So help me get this straight: (in broad terms, the last being where I'm confused)

Intentional: end of game, team A needs a foul and clearly is not going for the ball when they push a member of team B. Not too crazy, but they'd been warned.

Technical: player drops loud f bomb, coach gets carried away, etc.

( here is where I'm confused)
Flagrant Technical:
A punch is thrown(that one is fairly clear, I think).
Low bridge, if intentional?
Saying "you suck"? (seems like a tech and a zero leash IMO)

With the administration of this call, do you point to the door, signal a tech, then clarify with the table the level of the technical?
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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 11:39pm
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You have your base calls of a personal fouls and technical fouls.

Personal foul=live ball contact
Technical foul=dead ball or noncontact fouls

Personal fouls and technical fouls have different modifiers that describe what kind of foul it can be. That's where you get your double personal fouls, double technical fouls, intentional personal fouls, intentional technical foul, etc.

There is technically no official signal for when one had to DQ a player/ejected a coach. You just report the foul as a flagrant foul/T, inform the coach, tell the table to put 20 on the clock, and inform the player.
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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 11:46pm
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There is technically no official signal for when one had to DQ a player/ejected a coach. You just report the foul as a flagrant foul/T, inform the coach, tell the table to put 20 on the clock, and inform the player.
I called one Flagrant Foul and it was for an elbow to the fact. I first gave the Intentional Foul signal as I really did not know what else to do. Then when my partner came up to me and said, "You are going to eject him right?" I said sure I was and the signal I gave was the old "heave ho" signal after I reported the foul. I am not saying that is right, but I have yet to meet anyone that totally disagrees with that procedure.

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Old Sun Dec 18, 2011, 11:53pm
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I called one Flagrant Foul and it was for an elbow to the fact. I first gave the Intentional Foul signal as I really did not know what else to do. Then when my partner came up to me and said, "You are going to eject him right?" I said sure I was and the signal I gave was the old "heave ho" signal after I reported the foul. I am not saying that is right, but I have yet to meet anyone that totally disagrees with that procedure.

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If someone is getting DQ/ejected, then I almost always give the "heave ho" signal. It's a universal signal that no one will mistaken.
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I called one Flagrant Foul and it was for an elbow to the fact. I first gave the Intentional Foul signal as I really did not know what else to do. Then when my partner came up to me and said, "You are going to eject him right?" I said sure I was and the signal I gave was the old "heave ho" signal after I reported the foul. I am not saying that is right, but I have yet to meet anyone that totally disagrees with that procedure.

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In both player cases, I followed the same mechanic. Think we could gt the NFHS to make it official?
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Old Mon Dec 19, 2011, 06:19pm
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If you can't handle a "you suck" that isn't even being verbalized without tossing a kid, I'd have to agree with him. A "T" is warranted, but nothing else.
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Old Mon Dec 19, 2011, 06:28pm
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If you can't handle a "you suck" that isn't even being verbalized without tossing a kid, I'd have to agree with him. A "T" is warranted, but nothing else.
Really? A 12-year-old mouths "you suck" and an ejection is over-reacting?
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Really? A 12-year-old mouths "you suck" and an ejection is over-reacting?
I don't know that it's an overreaction, I just know I probably wouldn't eject a kid for that.
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If you can't handle a "you suck" that isn't even being verbalized without tossing a kid, I'd have to agree with him. A "T" is warranted, but nothing else.
Mouthing is verbalizing quietly, I'm not saying I'd toss every time, but your insinuation here is misguided. MS game? Have a seat, son
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Mouthing is verbalizing quietly, I'm not saying I'd toss every time, but your insinuation here is misguided. MS game? Have a seat, son
+1 This kid will only get worse without the full complement. He may anyway, but this may help him to focus on what he should be doing on the floor.
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In both player cases, I followed the same mechanic. Think we could gt the NFHS to make it official?
Good idea but unlikely to happen. Makes to much sense for NFHS to do it.
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