They're kidding me, right? Ugh. :(
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Gotta be a mistake. Surely they changed the call! :)
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Care to enlighten those of us who couldn't stay awake to see the Lakers game? It's just as well that I went to sleep and missed the end of the Celtics game. Yeesh!
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I was very surprised that Shaq got a charge on that play, in terms of contact & the defender's positioning it seemed weak to me at best, at least from my seat 15 ft from my TV.
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ran right over him and put him flat on his back.... "I was very surprised that Shaq got a charge on that play.." Me too! Shaq is allowed to do that 99% of the time. |
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"I was very surprised that Shaq got a charge on that play.." Me too! Shaq is allowed to do that 99% of the time. [/B][/QUOTE] Shaq is allowed 10X that 99% of the time! :) [/B][/QUOTE] "Shaq is the hardest player in history to officiate." Translation: "If we called half of everything on Shaq he'd never play past the first half, and we'd lose the biggest draw in the game." |
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"Shaq is the hardest player in history to officiate." Translation: "If we called half of everything on Shaq he'd never play past the first half, and we'd lose the biggest draw in the game." [/B][/QUOTE] I will agree that Shaq gets away with alot (as do many other centers and other stars in the NBA). I would also argue that it goes both ways with Shaq, to be perfectly fair. He is so large that, in order to contain him, many teams use a lot of what would be blatantly illegal contact against anybody else and don't get called for it using it against Shaq. I don't envy anybody trying to officiate when there is a player of that extraordinary size on the court. |
"I would also argue that it goes both ways with Shaq, to be perfectly fair."
I agree, but I'd say Shaq leads the NBA in elbows/shoulders/forearms to the face of a defender and no call, OR (and this happens a lot with Shaq) the defender is called for hitting Shaq's elbow with their face ;-(.... OUCH! "I don't envy anybody trying to officiate when there is a player of that extraordinary size on the court." Point taken. Quote:
"Shaq is the hardest player in history to officiate." Translation: "If we called half of everything on Shaq he'd never play past the first half, and we'd lose the biggest draw in the game." [/B][/QUOTE] I will agree that Shaq gets away with alot (as do many other centers and other stars in the NBA). I would also argue that it goes both ways with Shaq, to be perfectly fair. He is so large that, in order to contain him, many teams use a lot of what would be blatantly illegal contact against anybody else and don't get called for it using it against Shaq. I don't envy anybody trying to officiate when there is a player of that extraordinary size on the court. [/B][/QUOTE] |
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Great points
PA Coach - You are comletely correct on both points regarding the PC foul rule.
JR - I will concede that an element of entertainment enters into the officiating in the NBA (i.e., they don't want to blow a violation every time down the court, they don't want to oful out the stars if possible). However, I think that oversimplifies the problem of officiating play involving players of Shaq's size. |
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With a secondary defender, the arc is defintely relevant and the feet almost always will need to be set. It is hard to imagine circumstances where the secondary defender can draw a PC foul without getting set in the offensive player's line of movement first. Feet moving on a PC is something that occurs when you are on the ball, not off the ball.
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