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Old Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:34am
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I've never seen a player in my roman province that was suspended, dressed and in the book.
This player has been suspended by his school. They can't send him off without an adult, so they leave him on the bench. The local rule said he was ineligible to play, you should abide by that.
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Old Tue Dec 13, 2011, 10:55am
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This player has been suspended by his school. They can't send him off without an adult, so they leave him on the bench. The local rule said he was ineligible to play, you should abide by that.
Then that is something that should be formally communicated to the association/assignor. The officials should know coming into the game that this is the expected/accepted practice. Based on the OP it seems an official got in trouble for adhering to the school policy.
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Old Tue Dec 13, 2011, 11:09am
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Then that is something that should be formally communicated to the association/assignor. The officials should know coming into the game that this is the expected/accepted practice. Based on the OP it seems an official got in trouble for adhering to the school policy.
We don't know the situation his partner was in. You're right, though, the school should inform the assigner of their policy and their insistence that they get officials willing to comply. If a coach tells me his player isn't eligible, I'm not asking why.
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Old Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:20pm
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We don't know the situation his partner was in. You're right, though, the school should inform the assigner of their policy and their insistence that they get officials willing to comply. If a coach tells me his player isn't eligible, I'm not asking why.
A school policy doesn't trump the rules. Unless the league or conference or state association has such a rule and it's well communicated, I'm expecting that player to enter the game. This ain't Hoosiers.
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Old Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:38pm
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A school policy doesn't trump the rules. Unless the league or conference or state association has such a rule and it's well communicated, I'm expecting that player to enter the game. This ain't Hoosiers.
If the school policy says he's ineligible, who am I to question that?
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Old Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:45pm
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If the school policy says he's ineligible, who am I to question that?
Um, the referee? What if it was school policy to play with 6 players or with players wearing long tights under shorts?

The player was not ejected from the game. He is an eligible substitute, by rule. He must come into the game by rule unless he's injured.

I get both sides of this, but it's not as cut and dried as some of you are making it to be.
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Old Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:50pm
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I see your point, but eligibility is outside of my purview as an official. I'm not going to question it. Same as if the coach tells me the player has reached his participation limit. I'm not going to try to force the coach to play a kid he says is ineligible just because he's sitting on the bench in uniform.
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Old Tue Dec 13, 2011, 02:42pm
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Um, the referee? What if it was school policy to play with 6 players or with players wearing long tights under shorts?

The player was not ejected from the game. He is an eligible substitute, by rule. He must come into the game by rule unless he's injured.

I get both sides of this, but it's not as cut and dried as some of you are making it to be.
It absolutely is cut and dried...if the Coach says a player or players are not available to play, you have no authority to set that aside and force the Coach to put one or more of them into the game.

It really is that simple...
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Old Tue Dec 13, 2011, 01:42pm
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A school policy doesn't trump the rules. Unless the league or conference or state association has such a rule and it's well communicated, I'm expecting that player to enter the game. This ain't Hoosiers.
The school has a policy that states the kid is ineligible...(after 1 Technical)

how is this "trumping the rules"?
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