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26 Year Gap Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:35pm

Welpe's wish is granted.
 
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CoachNRef Mon Dec 12, 2011 10:47pm

Hey, do you think we get paid for having fun? :D
wanna get paid? you gotta bring the change.

bainsey Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:49pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 804039)
I still maintain that everyone is better off if the court is off-limits to the parents and spectators.

My town's rec director says there are four types of people in sports: players, coaches, officials, and spectators. Ninety percent of the problems arise when one category tries to be another.

After looking over the thread APG posted, I can see Nevada's point. The technical foul is not necessarily to punish the incident, but to discourage the behavior. You can't discourage such behavior without consequences.

The closest thing I have to this sitch is in a U-14 boys' soccer game in October. A kid got hurt, and his mom blew right past the A/R on the sideline toward the center of the field. The center referee told her she had to leave (the kid wasn't hurt that badly), and out came the "but I'm his mother!" arguments. The opposing coach -- on the line I was working -- loudly insisted we can't have parents on the field.

That really comes down to my point. Rules are agreements, and in the aforementioned case, it was indeed agreed upon by that league that parents will not come on the field, for any reason. If we generally agree that the same should be the case in basketball, then most of us would have no problem here penalizing any such court-entry actions.

Ultimately, it sounds like a case where Roman Law reigns supreme.

BktBallRef Mon Dec 12, 2011 11:55pm

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 803947)
Injured player, coach beckoned. Parent comes down to the floor uninvited.

Your move.

Stand aside, wait until the player is removed, resume game.

Otherwise, there's nothing else to do unless the parent proves he/she can't be rational.

APG Tue Dec 13, 2011 12:53am

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Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 804114)

After looking over the thread BNR posted, I can see Nevada's point. The technical foul is not necessarily to punish the incident, but to discourage the behavior. You can't discourage such behavior without consequences.

'Twas I that posted the thread. ;)

And I've never heard of anyone issuing a T in this situation (parent is taking care of kid and nothing toward me)...Nevada is literally the first person I've seen suggest that route.

bainsey Tue Dec 13, 2011 01:04am

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 804133)
'Twas I that posted the thread. ;)

Fixed it, APG. Thanks.

BayStateRef Tue Dec 13, 2011 02:21pm

Had this problem at a varsity girl's tournament this summer. Girl goes down in a heap; coach and trainer come onto the court to tend to her, followed shortly by the father. As the father walks by my partner, he says something akin to "If you'd call the game right, this wouldn't happen."

I called the tournament director over and had her remove the dad from the gym. We had no problem with dad coming onto the court, but once he opened his mouth to us, he was not going to hang around to see the rest of the game.

JugglingReferee Tue Dec 13, 2011 03:30pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 803947)
Injured player, coach beckoned. Parent comes down to the floor uninvited.

Your move.

Assuming that the parent is the player's parent (or guardian), then I beckon them on. And I don't care where they are, I still beckon, even if they're already on the court.

JugglingReferee Tue Dec 13, 2011 03:33pm

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Originally Posted by Nevadaref (Post 804039)
Are people posting these threads just for me? :D

Unfortunately, we had a situation last week in which a parent came out of the stands to harangue a young official and his veteran partner did not take care of business. :(

I still maintain that everyone is better off if the court is off-limits to the parents and spectators.

We had one of these cases 3 years ago. The young official told the local association that the reason he didn't quit was because the other official did "take care of business" (paraphrasing to match your comment).

fullor30 Tue Dec 13, 2011 11:06pm

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Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 803957)
Stand aside, wait until the player is removed, resume game.

Call chseagle to tazer the parent.

HaHahahahahahahaha!!!!

Always laugh at Bob's jokes

chseagle Wed Dec 14, 2011 01:13am

Quote:

Originally Posted by fullor30 (Post 804459)
HaHahahahahahahaha!!!!

Always laugh at Bob's jokes

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob jenkins (Post 803957)
Stand aside, wait until the player is removed, resume game.

Call chseagle to tazer the parent.

Hard to tazer a person when I cannot run that fast to catch a person thanks to my bum knee.

Parent comes on the floor, evaluate the need for the parent on the floor and act accordingly.

mbyron Wed Dec 14, 2011 09:32am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 804485)
Hard to tazer a person when I cannot run that fast to catch a person thanks to my bum knee.

I thought that's why you had a posse.

Welpe Wed Dec 14, 2011 09:37am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 804485)
Hard to tazer a person when I cannot run that fast to catch a person thanks to my bum knee.

TASERS have great range, so that shouldn't be a problem from the table. I suppose though you could always transition to an LRAD.

BillyMac Wed Dec 14, 2011 06:20pm

There's a difference between being tripped, and tripping ...
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bainsey (Post 803947)
Parent on the Floor.

What's the call if a player trips over the parent?

bainsey Wed Dec 14, 2011 10:50pm

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 804816)
What's the call if a player trips over the parent?

I assume that the parent and child go to the same school, so I've got nothing. Since when did night school students become eligible, anyway?


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