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JRutledge Wed Dec 14, 2011 01:28pm
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Originally Posted by Danvrapp (Post 804691)
Given a double whistle with NO prelim signal(s), I agree. But with the prelim signal(s) I would think you save more face (and have a better chance of getting the call right!) if you conference real quick.

And I'm surprised no one brought this up yet...is the T obligated to buy the beer after the game?:D
The problem is the rules do not support your position. This rule is exactly the same a the NCAA level as it is at the NF level.

Peace

APG Wed Dec 14, 2011 01:37pm
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Originally Posted by Danvrapp (Post 804691)
Given a double whistle with NO prelim signal(s), I agree. But with the prelim signal(s) I would think you save more face (and have a better chance of getting the call right!) if you conference real quick.

And I'm surprised no one brought this up yet...is the T obligated to buy the beer after the game?:D
The only time you can get together under NCAA-M rules after conflicting signals on a block/charge play is if the play involves the restricted area. Otherwise you're stuck with a double foul.

fiasco Wed Dec 14, 2011 01:39pm
Since I'm not as well-versed in 3-man, can someone give some insight into whose call this should be? I mean, I know it's in an intersecting place on the court in terms of coverage, but whose primary is it? Seems like the play originated in the T's area, but the secondary defender is coming from the L's area.

Danvrapp Wed Dec 14, 2011 01:41pm
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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 804697)
The only time you can get together under NCAA-M rules after conflicting signals on a block/charge play is if the play involves the restricted area.
For a guy that only works HS, thanks for clarifying for me!

bob jenkins Wed Dec 14, 2011 02:33pm
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Originally Posted by fiasco (Post 804700)
Since I'm not as well-versed in 3-man, can someone give some insight into whose call this should be? I mean, I know it's in an intersecting place on the court in terms of coverage, but whose primary is it? Seems like the play originated in the T's area, but the secondary defender is coming from the L's area.
L's call. The offensive player didn't get the ball until he was in the lane, and the contact is clearly in the lane.

mbyron Thu Dec 15, 2011 08:59am
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Originally Posted by ballgame99 (Post 804649)
I had a charge. Just for my knowledge, what part of that made you go block?
I saw the same as APG: defender moves into airborne shooter, thus forfeiting LGP.

All_Heart Thu Dec 15, 2011 10:50am
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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 804697)
The only time you can get together under NCAA-M rules after conflicting signals on a block/charge play is if the play involves the restricted area. Otherwise you're stuck with a double foul.
Both officials signal and come together...This is the discussion that takes place:
Trail: Oh s*** how are we getting out of this mess.
Lead: You thought the player was in the restricted area...righttttt
Trail: No..er...Oh I see... YES I thought he was in which is why I was calling a Block
Lead: Well he wasn't in so it will be a charge.
Trail: Phew...Good Save :)
This is one way out of a sticky situation... Or it might work better to actually call both and go to POI but at least you have options. :p


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