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JRutledge Sun Nov 27, 2011 03:37pm

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Originally Posted by stiffler3492 (Post 800199)
Really? Where, Jeff?

Outside of the Chicago area. There is a whole new world if you leave that area. :D

It is not every school or even most, but many schools/conferences/associations use 3 Person for lower level games so that they can train official to the system and get their players and coaches that use 3 Person.

Peace

RookieDude Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:52pm

Here, on the southeast side of Washington State...we do 3 whistle for ALL Boys H.S. games...to include Freshman games.

Not sure what the Girls side does...I am only a member of our local Boys Association.

chseagle Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:58pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 800324)
Here, on the southeast side of Washington State...we do 3 whistle for ALL Boys H.S. games...to include Freshman games.

Not sure what the Girls side does...I am only a member of our local Boys Association.

Girls side is the same, unless there are not enough officials to cover then it's 2-person crews for subvarsity.

Adam Sun Nov 27, 2011 11:59pm

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 800324)
Here, on the southeast side of Washington State...we do 3 whistle for ALL Boys H.S. games...to include Freshman games.

Not sure what the Girls side does...I am only a member of our local Boys Association.

It would be interesting if the schools are able to use two for girls without dealing with Title IX complaints.

Welpe Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:03am

It'd be nice if we could find a way to start using three whistle in JV as a training ground but I don't see schools ponying up the extra fee. Besides, the way the UIL constitution is currently written, I don't think we could negotiate a slightly lower fee per official to add a third.

chseagle Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:04am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 800328)
It would be interesting if the schools are able to use two for girls without dealing with Title IX complaints.

Since we've gone 3 person, I've seen a 2-person sub-varsity Girls' game only once or twice.

RookieDude Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:05am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 800328)
It would be interesting if the schools are able to use two for girls without dealing with Title IX complaints.

True...

not sure if the girls' officials feel they need 3 whistle for ALL the levels.

(I know I sure like 3 whislte, for ALL levels, on the boys side!);)

chseagle Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:07am

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 800332)
True...

not sure if the girls' officials feel they need 3 whistle for ALL the levels.

(I know I sure like 3 whislte, for ALL levels, on the boys side!);)

For the Girls' side the extra pair of eyes can be used for fashion police duties J/K :rolleyes:

Adam Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:08am

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Originally Posted by chseagle (Post 800331)
Since we've gone 3 person, I've seen a 2-person sub-varsity Girls' game only once or twice.

That would make sense. Scheduling issues would probably be allowable, as long as the school is attempting to get three.

But I'm no attorney.

Adam Mon Nov 28, 2011 12:09am

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Originally Posted by RookieDude (Post 800332)
True...

not sure if the girls' officials feel they need 3 whistle for ALL the levels.

(I know I sure like 3 whislte, for ALL levels, on the boys side!);)

Here we have to work both, and I can tell you the need is far more consistent with the boys.

ga314ref Mon Nov 28, 2011 03:54am

It might happen...
 
...after there's a John McSherry type of incident. Maybe.

mbyron Mon Nov 28, 2011 07:51am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 800328)
It would be interesting if the schools are able to use two for girls without dealing with Title IX complaints.

I'm surprised that the existence of distinct associations for boys and girls doesn't prompt Title IX issues.

Rich Mon Nov 28, 2011 08:52am

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Originally Posted by Snaqwells (Post 800328)
It would be interesting if the schools are able to use two for girls without dealing with Title IX complaints.

I've said the same many times. I have never felt I *needed* three on a girls game here. I've rarely felt that 2 was sufficient on the boys side.

Title IX or political correctness?

Adam Mon Nov 28, 2011 09:16am

Probably both.

ref3808 Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:31am

Agree with RichMSN
 
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Originally Posted by RichMSN (Post 800349)
I've said the same many times. I have never felt I *needed* three on a girls game here. I've rarely felt that 2 was sufficient on the boys side.

Title IX or political correctness?


Agree totally.


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