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APG Tue Nov 08, 2011 11:45am

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 797540)
I wasn't commenting on the original post. I was commenting on this statement:

And he was still correct..especially in the context of the original question. It was only you who started adding silly modifiers to the original question.

BillyMac Tue Nov 08, 2011 06:35pm

Do Not Commit This To Memory ...
 
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Originally Posted by The_Rookie (Post 797058)
Tech=Div line opp the table

Personal=spot closest to where foul occurred

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Originally Posted by AllPurposeGamer (Post 797567)
And he was still correct..especially in the context of the original question. It was only you who started adding silly modifiers to the original question.

AllPurposeGamer: In regard to the original post, you are 100% correct.

However, I still believe that The_Rookie's statement (above), about where to inbound the ball, doesn't work in all cases, and should not be remembered, or memorized, as such, by rookie officials, or veteran officials, for that matter. I once worked with a veteran official, one of our finest, who wanted to inbound the ball at the division line, using the possession arrow, after a double technical foul.

JRutledge Wed Nov 09, 2011 01:21pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 797620)
AllPurposeGamer: In regard to the original post, you are 100% correct.

However, I still believe that The_Rookie's statement (above), about where to inbound the ball, doesn't work in all cases, and should not be remembered, or memorized, as such, by rookie officials, or veteran officials, for that matter. I once worked with a veteran official, one of our finest, who wanted to inbound the ball at the division line, using the possession arrow, after a double technical foul.

Then they need to read the rules on what we do on every single double foul (not associated with a false version of course) and what POI is. Also the college level rules are different and many people try to apply the college level rules to high school games. We can play the semantics game all day, but every Technical Foul goes to the division line after the FTs. I would not call a Technical Foul a Double Technical Foul.

Peace

BillyMac Wed Nov 09, 2011 06:49pm

After The Free throws ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 797713)
Every Technical Foul goes to the division line after the FTs.

Agreed. Sounds good to me.

If there are no free throws, then that's a different story, for another night. Goodnight moon.

And JRutledge, I would never try to comment on college level rules. I know more about paratransgenesis than I know about college level officiating.

JRutledge Wed Nov 09, 2011 07:13pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 797783)
I would never try to comment on college level rules. I know more about paratransgenesis than I know about college level officiating.

I think that is is necessary to be familiar with other levels and their rules so that when a coach or player questions a situation, you can be able to know how it is done at a different level. You do not have to be an expert, just be knowledgeable about some of the major rules to deflect the incorrect assumptions that others make about the rules at our level. I believe that is why there is a list at the end of the rulebook.

Peace

BillyMac Wed Nov 09, 2011 07:23pm

Did You Assume That I Didn't Know A Lot About Paratransgenesis ...
 
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Originally Posted by JRutledge (Post 797789)
I think that is is necessary to be familiar with other levels and their rules so that when a coach or player questions a situation, you can be able to know how it is done at a different level. You do not have to be an expert, just be knowledgeable about some of the major rules to deflect the incorrect assumptions that others make about the rules at our level. I believe that is why there is a list at the end of the rulebook.

Agree. However, I thought that the list at the end of the rulebook was there to be utilized by officials that work both levels, as a quick reminder about what they're doing that particular night.

JRutledge Wed Nov 09, 2011 08:05pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 797794)
Agree. However, I thought that the list at the end of the rulebook was there to be utilized by officials that work both levels, as a quick reminder about what they're doing that particular night.

It is, but if I only worked HS then I would still want to know what some of the differences were as many of the comments from coaches are about the college level. I learned that early in my career when I would hear coaches want to count a basket on a PC foul.

Peace

BktBallRef Wed Nov 09, 2011 08:09pm

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Originally Posted by BillyMac (Post 797620)
I once worked with a veteran official, one of our finest, who wanted to inbound the ball at the division line, using the possession arrow, after a double technical foul.

And once upon a time, he would have been correct.


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