Flagrant Fouls
 

Clarification On:

Flagrant TECHNICAL Foul versus Flagrant PERSONAL Foul?

Where would the ball be put in play? (Assuming a single foul)

Where is the ball put in play for ANY technical foul or ANY personal foul that results in a throw-in?

Always listen to Bob.

Tech=Div line opp the table

Personal=spot closest to where foul occured

That is your answer.

Peace

Double Your Pleasure ...
 

Double flagrant technical foul ???

A technical foul has little to do with any double foul.

Peace

High School Rules ...
 

Sure? Dead ball. Blue 5, and White 4, decide to have a profanity-laced debate. Official charges both with a flagrant technical fouls. It's a double foul so the ball is inbounded at the point of interruption, not at the division line.

I realize that NCAA rules may differ.

His point was all double fouls go to the POI...doesn't matter if it was a double technical foul.

If you want to be honest just because kids have profanity does not mean it is flagrant in my book and never will be just because I hear a bad word (I can be a smart azz too).

Actually the NCAA rules are exactly the same in this area. APG pretty much got what I was saying.

Peace

Daily Double ...
 

OK. So instead, they swear at each other, and then both of them tell the official where to shove his whistle after they are both charged with a single technical foul. Two double technical fouls, ejections, point of interruption.

The OP clearly says "assuming a single foul."

Rookie Mistake ...
 

I wasn't commenting on the original post. I was commenting on this statement:

Not to nit-pick this to death, but the part in red is not a double foul because they didn't foul each other. That would be a simultaneous foul (which still goes to the POI).

Get RID® Of Lice ...
 

Not nit-picking. Good point. Thanks.

And he was still correct..especially in the context of the original question. It was only you who started adding silly modifiers to the original question.

Do Not Commit This To Memory ...
 

AllPurposeGamer: In regard to the original post, you are 100% correct.

However, I still believe that The_Rookie's statement (above), about where to inbound the ball, doesn't work in all cases, and should not be remembered, or memorized, as such, by rookie officials, or veteran officials, for that matter. I once worked with a veteran official, one of our finest, who wanted to inbound the ball at the division line, using the possession arrow, after a double technical foul.

Then they need to read the rules on what we do on every single double foul (not associated with a false version of course) and what POI is. Also the college level rules are different and many people try to apply the college level rules to high school games. We can play the semantics game all day, but every Technical Foul goes to the division line after the FTs. I would not call a Technical Foul a Double Technical Foul.

Peace

After The Free throws ...
 

Agreed. Sounds good to me.

If there are no free throws, then that's a different story, for another night. Goodnight moon.

And JRutledge, I would never try to comment on college level rules. I know more about paratransgenesis than I know about college level officiating.

I think that is is necessary to be familiar with other levels and their rules so that when a coach or player questions a situation, you can be able to know how it is done at a different level. You do not have to be an expert, just be knowledgeable about some of the major rules to deflect the incorrect assumptions that others make about the rules at our level. I believe that is why there is a list at the end of the rulebook.

Peace

Did You Assume That I Didn't Know A Lot About Paratransgenesis ...
 

Agree. However, I thought that the list at the end of the rulebook was there to be utilized by officials that work both levels, as a quick reminder about what they're doing that particular night.

It is, but if I only worked HS then I would still want to know what some of the differences were as many of the comments from coaches are about the college level. I learned that early in my career when I would hear coaches want to count a basket on a PC foul.

Peace

And once upon a time, he would have been correct.