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In fact, in Oregon, I don't think there are any MS that sponsor teams at all. The MS's got out of that business a LONG time ago. There are often independent operations that conduct business in connection with a school but the connection is very loose. |
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Is it high maintenance or being a prima donna to demand that the court be free of debris and water leaks? What about the baskets being properly secured? Speaking of security, what about proper security for the officials -- whatever that may be? How about demanding that the teams wear proper uniforms, the coaches abide by the rules, and the clock run on properly? If you're satisfied with what's being offered by the school in the situation described here, that's fine. But don't criticize those who are not. A locker room demand is NOT unreasonable for basketball. Baseball, softball, and soccer may be a little different due to the location of the field, but basketball si an indoor sport where most teams have access to their own locker rooms to change. Officials should have the same courtesy. |
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Regardless, in-season ball, sponsored by schools (middle and high), is always a different animal than organizations which rent the facilities. Either way (back to the discussion), even with school sponsored events, not all the restrooms are accessible during game nights. Some schools are able to close off everything not in the immediate vicinity of the gym, which may mean staff restrooms are locked up and off limits to the general public. That doesn't mean someone can't open one up, but you can't just walk in. |
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My statement about a prima dona was in response to the proverbial official who shows up to a ms game demanding an office to change in when it's not part of the agreed-upon accomodations made with the association; and then refuses to work the game when his demands aren't met. The fact is, it's something that has to be negotiated rather than demanded by individual officials. The OP is, if the association leadership is smart, a great opportunity to discuss the issue with the schools. |
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The gist of the thread was you getting on your high horse about middle school games and how anyone who goes dressed is unprofessional, when in reality there are assignors who are fine with officials going to afternoon MS games dressed. We all know you wouldn't work MS games, and especially MS games where you might have to go dressed. They are well beneath you, we get it. Why is it that every time a prolonged argument happens on this board, you are involved? |
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I agree that if you really want somewhere to change, they can probably find somewhere for you. But, at the schools I speak of locally, I have asked for a room before and they have told me to go in the home team's locker room. |
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And you claim they do not give a damn but something tells me based on experience that is not totally true. A long time varsity guy and I worked a JH tournament (local) tournament some years ago for a varsity assignor and we worked two games that afternoon. We both showed up to the game not dressed in uniform and got dressed in an office or teacher's lounge. I will never forget the scorer on that game in about the first quarter of the first game said to me in an amazed voice, "You guys must be varsity officials?" I was surprised and asked her "Why do you think that?" She said, "Because you guys do everything so professionally. Most of the officials we see are so sloppy and we have to try to figure out what you they are doing. With you guys we know what your fouls are and how you deal with us is so professional." I did not even think we were doing anything special and I certainly did not tell them what we had done, but they figured it out. BTW, I also heard a positive word about our job from the assignor who appreciated our effort as the school administrators also appreciated our effort that night. Peace |
That is ridiculous. I grew up in Hawaii and its pretty easy to just use a towel to help change. Just be prepared and don't do dumb things.
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